why waves form matter.

[Rob Peritz]

Why does anything at all happen after space becomes it’s alter-self, after space forms into matter? Why does everything that comes after a wave center abide by all the rules of existence? Space has properties of a Continuous Infinite Eternal Wave Medium and is the priori of all that exists but what, why and how is it that space supports the rules or laws of chemistry, physics, evolution, etc. that comes after space forms itself into matter. These things (properties of space?) obviously exist. Why does space allow these things to exist. Are they necessary or are they just inflammations on the wave centers. Why does space tolerate light? Why does space tolerate heat? Why does the second law of thermodynamics apply when Space does not require these laws. It is as if they appear out of nothing... Who or what made the laws that space utilizes.

Just because we now understand the WSM and the DUR doesn’t mean that we understand the reason that space is what it is... Or why it does what it does.. Or why it exists at all. This is still a mystery... We can understand the structure of space, the laws of space, but I surmise that the why of space is beyond human understanding and always will be. Perhaps if we evolve into something other than human or perhaps if there is any truth to the myth of an after life we may in the future find the answer to why waves form matter.
~rob

[haselhurst]

Rob,
This has been discussed numerous times before.

The question as to why space exists with the properties it has has no meaning - it is not a valid question.
To ask why is to ask for a cause. Space is eternal / uncaused.
(Talk to NJ about this - he understands it)

And the 2nd law of thermodynamics does not apply to infinite space - it only applies to bound / finite systems - and there is no such thing. All things are finite wave structures as part of infinite space.

Please please please - do not forget rules of philosophy / metaphysics - else you will be led astray asking questions that have no meaning.

Geoff

[Rob Peritz]

Hi Geoff,
I agree with you that space is uncaused but I still have a reasonable doubt as to my sanity on the subject because one can never truly know if what we are connected to and can interact with is all that there is. Our universe may very well be infinitely big to our understanding while in reality this is only the tip of the iceberg and infinite existence may very well be filled with icebergs and Icebergs are tiny broken off pieces of massive glaciers. Where then does that leave us? We can only assume that our understanding of the WSM and the DUR holds true throughout all of infinite space. We may very well be in a vast finite bubble where all of these laws and properties that we are connected to and interact with exist but there could be an infinite quantity of roughly spherical bubbles where our local laws and properties of this universe do not exist.

To claim that there is no place for error in any theory, even one that may very well prove out to be the rightful truth of reality is what religious fanatics have always done. They say...My God is better than your God because, well, because I say so.... When in fact there may not be any gods or even one God existing at all but they believe in their heart that they are absolutely right...

The truth is that we, humans, will absolutely never know whether or not our best theory on the nature of infinite space is in fact the one and only absolute answer.

For now I do believe that the WSM and the DUR does explain the simple science fundamentals of all that there is but I am not afraid to say that I may be wrong, I have made mistakes before...
I reserve the right to explore every avenue of possibility before I make the grand statement that I have found the truth...
~rob

PS. - I have been exploring the WSM and the DUR of infinite Space for over a year now and I still have reasonable doubts... At what point in your personal exploration did you loose all doubt that you had found the truth and so became absolutely positive that your understanding of all that there is was in fact the one and only absolute answer.
I’m a little slow, it may take me somewhat longer to come to the same conclusions...

[haselhurst]

Hi Rob,

I remember standing in my cottage - about 5 meters from where I am now sitting and typing - it was 10 years ago.
I had been thinking about reality in terms of space rather than matter (was brought up with particle physics, had never really thought about space). But from reading Lorentz and Einstein I had realised that Einstein's relativity still worked for motion relative to an absolute space (rather than to other matter as Leibniz, Mach and Einstein argued).

I was imagining space made of little oscillating 'cells' to explain the quantum aspects of reality.
Then I thought - if the little cell is oscillating then the space around it must vibrate too.
So I grabbed my physics book and looked up vibrations and saw that they are formed by waves, and in particular standing waves. Within 10 seconds it occurred to me that matter could be a spherical standing wave in space.

Then immediately this seemed to provide a simple explanation of gravity (what I had been looking for - to explain how earth could orbit sun), that the in wave slowed down as it flowed in through other matter waves in space - and this affected where it met at the wave center 'particle'.

I was just stunned - it seemed so simple and obvious.

So I spent the next 12 months just reading more and more on physics then philosophy and later metaphysics.
Everything started to fit perfectly.

So to begin I really knew nothing and was just lucky.

In 1998 I used the internet for the first time - and I still remember the shock of finding the work of Milo Wolff.
It was like reading my own mind.

For about 5 minutes I was jealous that i was not the first to work this out. Then I began to realise how wonderful this was - it confirmed that i was not crazy.

I spent the next 5 years discussing this with Milo - learning everything I could from him.
But with much better knowledge of philosophy and metaphysics than Milo had.
Everything made perfect sense.

SO you see when i first thought of it I knew nothing about metaphysics and the dynamic unity of reality - had no idea that others (Aristotle, Spinoza) had realised that motion was related to time and matter.

So this is why I am now certain - as over ten years I have found so many things are explained, all the central problems seemed to have sensible (indeed obvious) solutions.

I even deduced the size of the observable universe within infinite space on my own with the idea of the balloon with dots on the surface (see cosmology / equation of the cosmos). This matched Milo's deduction.

You are right - we should be careful about claiming knowledge of things that we do not directly experience (infinite space outside our finite spherical universe).

But it is necessary for WSM that that space does exist, and is full of waves just like ours - to explain why our universe does not collapse - to explain where our in waves ultimately come from.

So I was pretty convinced of the truth of this within 5 minutes of thinking of it - it seemed so obvious.
Ten years later - I am certain it is true. I have found nothing to contradict it - many many things that were explained perfectly.

But I realise there is a big difference between finding something out for yourself vs learning about it from others.

I now find that the simplicity argument is very important, as it relates to unity, necessary connection, logic, certainty.

I do think though, that ten years thinking about it is probably required to completely modify your mind to new knowledge - to understand it completely.
Same thing if you want to be good at sport or playing the violin - ten years of practice combined with a natural talent is probably necessary.

So you have a way to go Rob.
But I can assure you - you are on the right path - the view from the top when you get there is well worth the effort.

Hope this helps.
Geoff