Why I am here

[galaxy*19]

Greetings! I'm so glad you clicked on me. My name is Genevieve.
I am so excited about finding this forum, and being able to put up a post, i dont know where to start.
And it is circles or spirals like these that my thought patterns travel in. Wave spirals. The reason I would say spirals, instead of circles, is because although I do believe in the interconnectedness of all things, I think that due to separation over time, and basic motion through existence, and due to simple complexity (what a seeming paradox/oxymoron), if you unraveled reality, it would peal off like a spiral shape. Like pealing an apple without ever breaking the strip of peal.

The apple is a great gift of Gaia, to help us learn about the universe. I find it to be no surprise that it is associated with Newton's discovery of gravity in basic education.

Anyway, I am here because I have studied philosophy, psychology, computer science, genetics, metaphysics, astrology, numerology, i ching, dreams, quantum physics, astronomy, cosmology.. basically all of my interests I listed. But Philosophy of Science seems to be where my brain has remained for quite some time. And for at least a few years now, I have been wanting to write a book about these very topics. So i was just thrilled to find this forum, and i hope I can participate frequently.

Thanks!

Wow! I think this is the most inspired thing I've written. I am so happy to have found this place and be here. Yay!

[haselhurst]

Hi Genevieve,
You are in a hyper happy mood - how nice.
So what's with the poll about apples. I can't answer it!
And you should realise that this is not like most forums, it is small, quiet, and you will not get many replies to a poll!
But there are a few nice people here who appreciate the dynamic unity of reality, how the wave structure of matter in space explains this.
Anyway, thanks for writing to us (and posting here).
Hope we can do some good work over time - help set things in motion to improve the state of our world (my ultimate motive! - and the true power of true knowledge).
Cosmos,
Geoff

[galaxy*19]

Hello,
I would just like to start out by saying, well, I do not believe you to be a crackpot. My name is Genevieve and I'm a computer scientist/metaphysical spiritual being. I'm what i've always been told, weird. But that's besides the point. I guess i too feel like a crackpot.
However, getting to the point, I just stumbled on your website as I have been strugling to start writing a book for a couple years now. And it turns out that it is totally a Philosophy of Science topic, and ultimately, you provide the explanation I too would be trying to express. In short, I am quite positive, from both a scientific and metaphysic standpoint, that what you present is just the paradigm shift the world is waiting for. I have read a number of interesting books, in both science, including lots of quantum physics (for the regular reader) as well as other interesting books that dont even fit in a genre, and it all connects.
The interconnection of it all is what drives me to want to present a book about it. Or at least a paper. But there is so much that connects, i dont even know where to start. THough i do feel like I'm gettin closer.
Sorry, I'm rambling. In any case, i just want you to know, that you are on the right path, and to keep going. I am totally fascinated with Philosophy of Science and have been since i took a class in college. IN addition to being a computer scientist (currently employed writing software for a GIS company), i also have a Certificate from the Institute of Cognitive Science (CU, Boulder). My primary focus was Philosophy.

I am really glad to see that you are one of the top hits on Google (in fact, that's how i found your site.. how else do people find anything anymore).
I have no idea where you are based or who you are involved with, but i would be interested in working with you. Hopefully you will find me equally not a crackpot, but a lonely station of Truth in this (currentlly) Bleakness many people call REality.
In fact, i believe i came to Earth to help the people, and that is exactly what you say knowing this can do. So if i can do anything to help, or get involved, consider me on call.

[northjetty]

Hi there galaxy 19, is that an indication of your age, or just a screen name? From all that you've studied it would seem that you are well into college age now, but maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part. Hey, I know that this isn't some sort of dating service, but a guy can pay a beautiful and intellegent girl a compliment around here right? I'm a real sucker for an intellegent female and you certainly seem like one, and by your photo I would say that you are rather attractive. I don't mean to embarress or offend you in any way, just pay you a compliment.
sincerely,
northjetty/cosmos

[Aireal]

Genevieve Hello,

I have read some of your posts here, but I have not posted much myself. Of course it is summer, and I have a teenage daughter, so it is hard to get any time on the computer.

I too am very happy to have found this site, which I did quite by accident while working on my radaition shielding concept. Geoff was most kind and very helpful, even though I was in the wrong place. In fact he was more helpful than sites related to my project. So I stayed and started learning about the Wave Theory of Matter, and I am glad I did.

Like you I studied many fields, science, religion, magic. I considered nothing off limits, for it was my belief that a germ of truth could be found in any field of study, if one looked hard enough. During my lifetime I have seen many attempts to unite these various fields into a unified whole, most fell short of their goal. Although I could see the interconnections running through all, I could not put my finger on it and pin it down. That is, untill I came here. As I started learning about WSM, I could see it in my mind before I saw even the first graph. Thus I know in my heart that WSM is valid.

I too was a writer in my youth, unpublished except for one poem. I wish you better luck in your effort. I have enjoyed your other posts, and look forward to more. And if you do publish a book or paper, please let the rest of us know, I would enjoy it, as would Geoff and others I am sure. Well thats enough for now, I just wanted to say hello and let you know I enjoyed your perky, upbeat posts. Much better reading than my dry and rather factual writting style.

[haselhurst]

Hi everyone,
I have two crazy kids playing in the background - we have just been playing soccer but a child's energy seems boundless!!
Anyway, I don't get much time on computer at moment - just wanted to say how pleasant it is to see people being nice to one another.
Will try and catch up to posts over next few weeks.

And it makes me smile - how powerful the force of attraction to a pretty, intelligent young lady (just ask my partner Karene!)

Take care.
Cosmos,
Geoff

PS- I am away till mid September.

PPS - C'mon Australia - last 16 in world cup soccer!!!

[galaxy*19]

Well, thanks everyone for your responses and support! Feels like we are really building a community. :)

I actually just yesterday stumbled on some of my own insight as to how to tie together a bunch of things i'm always trying. Astrology.

Dont scoff just yet. Turns out that astrology, though given a lot of flack, is actually a very scientific study of the planets, astroids, sun and moon, and their relation to us down here on earth. It ties into psychology, because a lot of the myth behind astrology attempts to explain human psychology (and even sociology).

In any case, i hope to write something that connects astrology to science, and philosophy of science, and yea, things like that. I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks for reading! We are involved in a truly great step in human evolution.

Peace,
Gen

[haselhurst]

There is probably a lot of nonsense written under the name of Astrology, but the WSM does explain that we are actually spatially extended structures of the universe, thus the stars and planets do have some affect on us.
We have a page on this for those interested.

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Philosophy-Astrology-Astrological-Signs.htm

Cosmos,
Geoff

[northjetty]

I am a gemini, and born in the year of the dragon. It is amazing how much this reflects into my life. I really do fit the bill of both astrological descriptions. People often say that there isn't much to astrology but I have had a strikingly on point month as far as the daily horoscopes are concerned. Taking the wsm into account, I can see why astrology becomes more meaningful considering that we are connected to the stars as far as subject and object are one in reality. I was out surfing all day today and I kept thinking about the wsm while I was in the water. Just the beauty of the earth around me and the insight as to it's spherical wave composition. Everything being totally interconnected to everything else as space medium, me, the board, the water, the sky, THE SHARKS, everything.

[galaxy*19]

Yes indeed, recognizing nature's beauty is such an easy way to tap into the beauty ofthe whole universe.
I have done a lot of study on Astrology in terms of a current spiritual practice, and I have gained a lot of insight from it, much of which I hope to express in wiritng and present to a scientific community such as this (one on the forefront). A reason I think Astrology fits into WSM is because WSM acknowledges the interrelation and cross-connecting of the sciences themselves, to obtain a higher level of understanding.
Melding the many into the one, showing that many explainations are really just different ways of saying the same thing.
Astrology is a great tool for modern living. I have found its resource and aid endless in living and interpreting my own day to day life, living human experience.
And Astrology is so vast and complex. The other interesting thing is that the myth behind astrology predates the earliest remaining historical accounts of events. The stars have been there longer than us, and things that persist (remain seemingly constant) for longer periods of time in the universe are more generally acceptible as being truths of the universe. The properties of electromagnetism, have been said to be such and such since the beginning of time. Reading a recent article in Scientific American, it mentioned that the weight of an electron may have decreased ever so slightly since the time of the 'big bang' or early universe if you prefer, with the cosmic background being credited as to how we know what it was before.

My point about Astrology though is, it incorporates a number of myths and concepts, that are fairly static (but they too evolve) and then the interpretation arises from the combinations of these myths, as related to human life experience.
Not only do each of the signs and planets and houses (in a birth chart) have their own individual meanings, myths and interpretations, but by combining all of them together, you can come up with very different meanings. (More specifically, when examining an astrological chart, you examine not only planet and house placement, but also the different aspects the planets make to each other.)

It turns out that Astrology, though consisting of simple concepts, combines them in infinitely more complex ways (as complex as you want, really). And the interpretation of the interactions represented by astrological myths, is what could be said to change in terms of level of accuracy.
Basically, it's like this. sun-sign astrology, what most people who dont know about astrology generally think of it as, really only examines a general time period (period of a whole sign, like a month) and also only one planet (sometimes we call the sun a planet in astrology).

more on this later.... it's hailing

[northjetty]

I have the same belief about interconnectivity. You know how M-theory came along with the realization that the different string theories had to merge into branches of one whole theory, I think that about everything. Science, religion, philosophy,astrology and what have you, all must fit into an understandable perception where each is playing a vital role in the totallity of reality. Not one right and one wrong, rather each playing a nessesary role. This is why the wsm has been a breathe of fresh air to me. Finally a working theory of everything that is based on interconnectivity. It's also refreshing to chat with like minded individuals that can concieve of things beyond the notion of discrete particles in a finite feild of space/time. I ran into this website just when I needed to go that extra step and have a deeper realization. It has certainly given me that. Well, there's a low pressure center off of the coast of central florida right now, the sea's are building and it's off to commune with the sharks and sea creatures for me.
Until next time/motion,
northjetty/cosmos

[Raphael]

[galaxy*19]

Raphael,
Thank you for your kind post!
You managed to bring together a lot of concepts and make yet more connections for me.

Being also a fan of Numerology (like Astrology), numbers have always been my thing. And I definitely think about the shapes and the numbers and the stars. Numerology, like Astrology, reveals a lot about ourselves based on the number energies that were current when we broke into this world as a human being, our birthday.

Since we know that the Universe is Cyclic (and I agree, spiralled), we can infer certain properties about numbers, and events in time.
Of course, there is room for error, because perhaps our time keeping methods are not even as fully precise as the atoms in the universe tend to be.

But if we think about finding number patterns in the Waves, more clarity is given.

Different number energies (0-9, 11, 22) have different frequencies or other wave properties, and thus have detectable differences.

Now I must say more about Mandalas, which are mathematical Gods. They can take so many different energy patterns, and are also closely related to Chakras and other energy pattern recognition. It makes sense that human have a color and frequency pattern Built In.
And as the outer world has it's own way of displaying wave patterns, we can learn to interpret it's waves too. Only when waves intersect does anything real come from the Nothing. The Void. THe space, the 0, should not be forgotten in your list of numbers either.

I agree that we should respect the Ancients, and their Myth. We also need to forge our own Myths, and Rituals, based on True principles, isn't that a goal?

I really like what you said about the centered distances of man to his world. Indeed, the enlightened man, the 21st century man, must learn to be centered in order to continue to thrive in this balanced dimension we are entering.
Remembering and growing and evolving from the past. If the Infinite really were a circle, we would be doomed to repeat history forever. BUt i believe that it is spiral shaped, and although similar patterns repeat, and cycles continue, we have the power to shift the direction, or perspective, on the spiral. Giant wave spiral ;)

I especially enjoyed your analysis of the 3,4 and 5 dimensions that we are moving through, I have found validation for that from other sources. And it makes sense. You can pick up anything in this world and explain it in this way, that to me, is the true proof of Science. Science begins with Faith, the faith that you know the Truth is out there. Since it shares that with Religion, when the sharing truly becomes balanced, we won't differentiate these two so much. We will be One.

About coincidences. I saw a sign at a church down the street that said "Coincidences are when God chooses to remain anonymous" and thought, that is an interesting way to look at it. But I prefer to view coincidence as synchronicity. To be aware that I have a say in MY own evolution, and how it affects other people as well (through my out-waves). I do not prefer to leave it ALL up to God to decide, I prefer to become One with God.
To translate that to say the exact same thing again, I prefer to view coincidence as synchronicity. Where synchronicities show that I am aware of environment, my actions, and how the two relate, and therefore become a centered participant. I do not just let the universe have it's way with me, while I sit apathetically back, letting other people's action affect me more than I affect me. Instead, I prefer to Live.

Which brings us to the inner world/outer world phenomena, which is all we have been discussing. In waves and out waves. When they come into perfect balance, they annilate, or they create. This is our fate as well.

Namaste

~Genevieve

[Aireal]

Genevieve

It is always a pleasure to read your posts. I noticed that you mentioned you feel as if you have been reincarnated, and used to reside in Atlantis and Lumeria. So I would like to tell you a little stoy from my youth which gives a slightly different version of reincarnation than the view generally held, that you may find of interest. I placed it in this thread, rather than start a new one, and that it seemed to fit better here than in the thread I heard you speak of this.

When I was young and a smark aleck, I thought I would make an old medicine look stupid when he said he belived in reincarnation after I explained it to him. His explaination to me made me the one who looked stupid.

I asked him "There are a number of people in the world, all of whom claim to be a man named Alexander that died many years ago. If reincarnation is true, how do we know which one of them is Alexander, and which ones are deluded for they all have memories of this man?"

He answered "None of them are deluded, they are all this man Alexander you speak of. During our life we all have the same chance to join with the Great Spirit when we die and enter into eternity with him. When we die, the Great Spirit will read our spirit and judge if we are worthy to enter enternity. If we are not worthy, we are cast into the great lake of destruction and creation, to be disolved into our parts by its flames. When the Great Spirit creates a new being, he reaches into the lake and takes the parts to create this new being, each is unique, never having lived before. These parts retain the memories of all the beings that it was part of before, so the Great Spirit commands them to forget. But if these parts belonged to a great person at one time, these memories may resurface for they contain some of the power of that great person, and that power may be greater than the current owners power to suppress the memories. Also simular events in ones life may trigger these memories. This Alexander you speak of must have been a great man for so many people to retain his memories, but he failed to enter eternity. Go to each of them and record every memory they have of this great man. When you compair the memories you will find that no two of them will share the exact same memory of this man Alexander."

He got me good. I do not remember what tribe he was from or his name. For all I know, this may not even be part of his belief, and was just pulling my leg. Yet it made more sense than any other theory for reincarnation I have heard of. It made a deep impact on me, for from that time on I stopped being such a smart a##, and started listening more, or at least trying to.

I would be interested in Geoff has to say about this story, and if it is vaild from the viewpoint of WSM. Well I hope you enjoy my little story and would like to hear your input on it also. You also said that you were writting a book, very good. Feel free to use any material I post in it, if you feel that it may be of any use to you or your readers. Till we speak again, my best wishes to you.