Tyger_Scales says hello. Time, Wave Diagrams

[haselhurst]

Hi Denise (tyger_scales),
Thanks for writing such a nice email. A few comments below.
Geoff

I just wanted to say that I'm really glad I stumbled onto your site. I like having all my information in one place, and I've started or planned to soon look into every topic listed.

Geoff - I'm glad that you stumbled on it too! But please realise that the site is very incomplete - needs a lot of work to be true philosophy standard (though I think the Wave Structure of Matter (WSM) is true so the pages are nonetheless important).

I'm only eighteen right now, but for as long as I can remember, I've felt like there was "more" and, while initially complex, that it was so much simpler than most people realize. I've instinctively known that history and theology and math/physics/biology, and everything else, for that matter, were all a part of the same thing; it's the only idea that makes any sense.

Geoff - I find your comments very remarkable for one so young (and spot on). You should be proud of yourself.

The quote on the "how to help" page from Aristotle (Suppose, then, that all men were sick or deranged, save one or two of them who were healthy and of right mind. It would then be the latter two who would be thought to be sick and deranged and the former not!) quite accurately describes how I've felt in my theories, especially as they were more instinctual and speculation than fact-based.

Geoff - It is easy for us to delude ourselves, to imagine things that don't really exist. This is why the disciplines of physics philosophy and metaphysics are so important. Unfortunately few people realise this so the world is full of silly ideas masquerading as truth. Anyway, you now have some pretty substantial foundations to form your ideas and opinions from, which is important I think.

I recently started my associate of philosophy in hopes to found these theories for my own peace of mind, and...the website as a more tangible starting point is a huge relief. It's a pity a major doesn't exist (that I'M aware of, anyway) that encompasses and combines all these things.

Geoff - It is a pity. But that is the nature of new knowledge. We have to wait for all those old 'professors' stuck with their existing beliefs to die, and the next generation (yourself) to come along and correct their errors, develop these fields of education. We have a page on education that you may find interesting ( I have an education degree, though I am really much more a natural philosopher) - and I feel pretty strongly that you will be taught a lot of postmodern nonsense that there are no absolute truths, which causes great harm both to philosophy / science, and society itself (as I see things). So if you wish to study philosophy (and you really should, you have a good mind for it, and the world is in great need of good philosophers) I urge you to read the original minds, from the ancient Greeks through to modern western philosophy. Really only need to read 20 or 30 good philosophy books to work things out (assuming you read them with WSM in mind). And they are delightful to read! Intelligence is a beautiful thing.

I'm a big fan of models and diagrams. I can relatively easily translate two-dimensional objects to three dimensions and vice versa. My resources are limited, but I do the best I can with what I have. I was hoping maybe you had some sketches of concepts that I could attempt to make models of, or at least illustrate demonstrably. It's a hobby I have that I don't actually do... with lack of concepts that need illustrating or that. I'd love the challenge.
Thanks and good luck,
Denise

Geoff - Sounds great and I'd love the help (good diagrams are worth their weight in gold if you ask me - and I'm crap at it and don't have time to learn). I really do hope that you come and join our infant little forum. There are some nice smart people there (I am pretty ruthless and only allow certain people to stay in forum - as there are a lot of idiots on internet who can quickly ruin a group discussion). But I also try to be nice and kind, within the constraints of philosophy of science / truth.
Hope this is not too abrupt. I find my life very busy at the moment. You are great, so please stay in touch, we need more people like you.

Cheers,
Geoff Haselhurst

PS - May I post this on forum? I think your letter is important. (Or if you join then you can post it as an introduction).

A few nice quotes from education page,

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Philosophy-Education.htm

Since philosophy is the art which teaches us how to live, and since children need to learn it as much as we do at other ages, why do we not instruct them in it? .. But in truth I know nothing about the philosophy of education except this: that the greatest and the most important difficulty known to human learning seems to lie in that area which treats how to bring up children and how to educate them. (de Montaigne)

Plants are shaped by cultivation and men by education. .. We are born weak, we need strength; we are born totally unprovided, we need aid; we are born stupid, we need judgment. Everything we do not have at our birth and which we need when we are grown is given us by education. (Jean Jacques Rousseau, Emile)

This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by a educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilised in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow-men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society. (Albert Einstein, 1949)

THE TEACHER AS A NECESSARY EVIL. Let us have as few people as possible between the productive minds and the hungry and recipient minds! The middlemen almost unconsciously adulterate the food which they supply. It is because of teachers that so little is learned, and that so badly. (Nietzsche, 1880)

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I would be tyger_scales. Tyger for year of the tiger and scales for Libra. Not too incredibly creative, but it sounds kind of cool. I'm a little bit of an astrology junkie, and I figure those two things are parts of me that WON'T change, so it's a stable screenname.

I've spent the past two hours in bed trying to come up with a practical model for that one little diagram of the in and out waves. It's very exciting imagining it in three or four dimensions, although that makes it slightly hard to make a model of. The most simplistic way I can think of that makes half an iota of sense is a film strip, but that kept confusing me because it's only heading out in one direction, so you'd need four of the same film strip (two going out and two going in) to do it. They're still some kinks I need to work out on that idea.

Anyway, that got me off on a little tangent about how before I found the website I was so sure that everything that had, is, and will happen already HAVE happened and always will, and it's merely a matter of our conscious selves getting around to experiencing it that was the illusion of time. This was reinforced when I read Slaughterhouse Five, when Kurt was describing how the aliens lived in four dimensions and...very exciting. A friend of mine was blogging and asked a few times, "what is time?" at which point an idea hit me so I wrote it down and thought it was brilliant. I wouldn't be surprised if she thinks I'm nuts, but such is life. I thought I'd run it by you:

I am of the opinion that time is an illusion created to allow the human mind the opportunity to absorb and analyze information in such a way that allows a point of reference to be given to said information, making a more organized catalogue. much as a "point" is created to symbolize a coordinate on a graph.

Geoff - Very astute - time is just a human idea, caused by the wave motion of space (that matter is in motion / active). In waves are our future, wave center is present, out waves are our past. So yes, our present is like a reference point (wave-center).

I could have gone on and bored her to tears, but that was it in a nutshell. To the rest of the world, it may seem an odd blending of theology and science, but since they're actually one thing, it makes perfect sense. It's too bad the two are constantly trying to disprove one another, when they'd get SO much further if they'd do the opposite. I admire people who do that.

I'd also been brooding over the phrase, "the truth lies somewhere in the middle," and lines to that effect and the concept of not being able to pin the "truth" down because it's always moving, and yet remaining the same. And then I read the introduction and it all started clicking and I'm just too excited to sleep. If you think of "truth" as being our present...you can follow that through to conclusion, I'm sure. I think I should get my hands on some of that Pixar animation software so I could draw this all up.

Hope I didn't take up too much of your time with my rambling. I'm pretty good at that.
Denise
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Hi tyger_scales,
I love the gentle charm of Winnie the poo, so I am reminded of Tigger.

You do like to ramble - but it is rather sweet and interesting. I am hoping that you can do some good diagrams over time (and engage us at forum with your rambling thoughts, but constrained by good philosophy). It is encouraging that you like to laze about in bed thinking - I am like that.
This email would be good at forum. But it would be better again (more efficient) if you first read what the Wave Structure of Matter has to say on these subjects (hope this is not too pointed!).
Please use the search function at;

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/search-website-physics-philosophy-metaphysics.htm

We have pages on both Time and Astrology, see;

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Time.htm

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Philosophy-Astrology-Astrological-Signs.htm

Over next few days I will post your letters into Forum. I think it is important to have young curious open minded (hopefully smart) people there to set a good example. Time shall tell!

And also on weekend I will add some stuff to forum from another cool guy, Pascal Krezel (from France) who does wave diagrams using mathcad. So check that out at some stage as it may help your thoughts (as i wrote before, diagrams / visualisation are important).
See (after weekend);

http://www.physics-philosophy-metaphysics.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=18 (Section on wave diagrams)

Hope this helps.
Cosmos,
Geoff

PS - No pressure to do anything. At your leisure, as it interests you.