"When forced to summarize the general theory of relativity in one sentence: Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter. ... Physical objects are not in space, but these objects are spatially extended ... thus the concept of particles cannot play a fundamental part, ... and can only appear as a limited region in space in which the field strength or energy density are particularly high."
(Albert Einstein, Metaphysics of Relativity, 1950)
"It is my firm belief that the last seven decades of the twentieth century will be characterized in history as the dark ages of theoretical physics. ... The quantum world is a world of waves, not particles."
(Carver Mead, Professor Emeritus at Caltech. Received $500,000 Lemelson-MIT Prize in 1999)
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Rob Peritz
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: Time, the WSM and Infinite Space |
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Geoff,
Your explanation of ‘time’ on the cosmology page found at
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/cosmos-second-law-thermodynamics-time.htm
is absolutely brilliant...
I have often thought that any person of sound mind that is not entirely brainwashed by myths and untruths is fully capable of understanding reality as it truly is, that reality is simple to understand, that it is, the most natural thing of all, to understand the true nature of existence...
It seems that most of humanity is so bogged down in misunderstandings today that some direction is necessary to pull them out of this quagmire and lead them back to the most natural, and simple, understanding of the true reality of existence.
I believe that we do not need to understand physics to understand reality. I believe that we do not need priests and shamans, etc... to explain existence and the meaning of life to us.
We just need some directions...
Perhaps it is because it has been a year since I began contemplating this most simple language for describing Reality, founded on One thing existing, Space, with Properties of a Continuous Infinite Eternal Wave Medium but I am proud to say that the following statement makes perfect sense to me now...
| Quote: | | “Once we realize that it is not Time but wave Motion which is fundamental, then it becomes obvious why Time is directional. If we apply this understanding of Time to Matter as Spherical Standing Waves in Space, this then leads to the following explanation of Past, Present, and Future. As it takes Time for the In-Wave to flow into its Wave-Center, thus the In-Waves are the Future, and in time will meet at their Wave-Center (the Present) and after flowing through the Wave-Center become Out-Waves (the past). This is important for it explains why Time is directional because the Wave Motion of Space is Directional, i.e. In and Out Waves travel in Opposite Directions relative to the Wave-Center (Present).” -Geoff Haselhurst | Thanks,
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northjetty
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What's interesting here is that the out waves being the past of one wave center, go out to become the future for another wave center. That's interesting, the future is always the past from this perspective. It couldn't be any other way when there is no origin to the wave motions themselves. This vividly shows how everything is supporting everything else.
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haselhurst Site Admin

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 728 Location: Planet Earth, Milky Way, Universe, Infinite Space. Status: Endangered Species. Cause: Ignorance
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Hi guys,
It is amazing how everything fits together / has simple explanations once we understand the wave structure of matter in Space.
So the obvious question is why is it so difficult to convince humanity of the truth of this knowledge?
The answer must be that we humans are very stupid when it comes to thinking about truth and reality.
This is made more difficult because our mind's representation of our senses is deceptive, as matter is seen as separate and discrete (particle like) - yet reason tells us everything is interconnected (we see the effect of things, not the causal connection which must be imagined - and science requires this necessary connection if it is to work).
This tells us that we must imagine reality, and this is the problem, as most people use their creative imaginations to imagine things to exist that do not really exist, but make them feel good. And clearly humans have a strong instinct to be programmed with the cultural truths and religious myths of their time, as this common belief strengthens their tribe (the herd instinct).
And I guess this is the role of philosophy, to work out the truth by working out which imaginations exist in reality vs only in the mind (so the further problem is that postmodern academia believes it is impossible to correctly imagine reality).
Given this, what is the best way to convince humans that we can / do know the truth about physical reality - and that this knowledge is very useful and important both to each and every one of us, and to our collective societies (which are both clearly dysfunctional and causing harm due to their incorrect foundations for truth and reality / human existence).
You guys are very important to our world - you have knowledge that can save humanity.
I hope that we can work together, produce very good quality work, and help one another get this knowledge known to the world.
I am working slowly - I am completely re-designing website, while rewriting main subject pages into simple summaries with a link to the longer more detailed pages.
To begin it is slow as there are a lot of things to change and experiment with - but i hope to show you the new Simple Science section in another week or so.
I have promised to do a lot of things - I will, it is just taking much longer than I imagined. But I am determined, and i do believe in truth, its importance, that it rises to the top in the end.
Keep thinking and learning you guys - you are unique in human history - constructing your ideas from true foundations.
And I derive great pleasure in seeing your minds grow and improve, you have become more certain of your foundations, more precise and deductive with your language, more profound with the truths that you are deducing.
Enjoy it! This most rare gift, the gift of truth, the source of wisdom.
Cosmos,
Geoff |
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northjetty
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People want to refuse any claim that reality can be correctly understood. I've brought this cosmology up in the Joseph Campbell forum to see if anyone could understand it. The very first reaction was a post modern response, to which I posted Milo's page and pointed to the aspect of accurately measuring the electron. People still don't want to believe it, even when they're looking right at it.
I would think that this has to do with passion. Those who are passionate about understanding, go on to understand, while those who are not, do not, thus they don't believe that understanding actually exists. What natural law says that we can not properly understand the origin of the natural laws? The principle of uncertainty? That principle changed when we became certain with our measurements. This is how I presented it to some post-modern favoring people that I was speaking with. They didn't want to believe that science can do that now, even though they couldn't explain what was wrong with SSW center conception of matter. The challenge is there, some one needs to show how it is not the correct solution. No one has responded yet.
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Bill Fisher
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How to sell WSM?
Business use a technique called brand identification or “inside-out branding.” In short you take all the words, ideas, concepts, phrases and sentences and look for what makes your product (wave structure of space and motion) truly unique.
The Goal: get more people to interact so that they want to buy your product even if it’s free
Some basic rules include:
Stories sell – fact tell
Knowing who your audience is
If more than one, customize your approach for each audience
Example three business audiences:
Consumer asks the question: What will this do for me?
Commercial – How will your product make me money?
Industrial – What are the specifications and limitations?
Does your product answer their questions: Is this stuff fun, interesting, stimulating, and interactive like a game?
To win the hearts and minds of the masses, you need the very best branding and selling techniques. In-side out branding starts by listing all key words. You then want to test each word in relation to your audience “general audience” or “expert”.
Words Do they understand the word? Is there a better word?
Metaphysics
Physics
Philosophy
One
Photon
Structure
Everything
Waves
In waves
Out waves
Center waves
Space
Nature
Motion
System
Truth
Reality
Matter
Discover
Faith
Cosmology
And so on
List phrases
Wave structure of matter
And so on
List sentences
| Quote: | The answer must be that we humans are very stupid when it comes to thinking about truth and reality.
This is made more difficult because our mind's representation of our senses is deceptive, as matter is seen as separate and discrete (particle like) - yet reason tells us everything is interconnected (we see the effect of things, not the causal connection which must be imagined - and science requires this necessary connection if it is to work). |
And so on
What we want to look for are ideas that sell – get people interactive vs. those that cause mental indigestion.
A general audience needs entry level ideas and so do many experts. Generally what happens is you go through this exercise about fifty times and then certain good ideas keep popping up such as:
Connection
Relationship
Wave
Structure
Truth
One
System
Everything
Branding interactive exercises
If you were to discover the truth about everything what would you do with your discovery?
If you knew the truth about everything do you suppose there would be a need for faith?
If the truth about everything is found in the wave structure of everything how would you use that information to improve the quality of your life?
What do you suppose are the natural laws that describe the wave structure of everything? How could you use those laws to achieve something that up until now was thought to be impossible?
If you want to involve a general audience then you need relate to what they find interesting such as: Managing the wave structure of water gives you a method to weld steel. Weld steel with water sure: Show me!
OK check this out. http://hytechapps.com/
Managing the wave structure of just water in different ways has enormous potential to improve the human condition. Another example you can now use the wave structure of water to control bird flu and other super bugs. No chemicals needed.
It’s a slight shift in perception from particles to waves. Imagine what you might learn if you were to study to the wave structure of everything?
What is the goal of Wave Management? Is it to give people new ways to improve their decision-making abilities? Show them how to control bird flu using water / waves? Get them committed to studying the wave structure of everything? |
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Bill Back
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Wave management, we use it all the time. I like it.
When I am in my happy space I get glimpses of the way it is. It is like looking at the surface of an “observable hubble bubble” from the inside, seeing myself and all that exists within the concave reflective surface, and seeing through the surface to the infinity beyond…. Kind of like looking at a computer screen seeing both your reflection and the information, (it is easy to see yourself when the screen is off).
Changing the way people think or any habit is done, through varied repetition, impressive emotional experience, and affirmation of the truth without argument.
Varied repetition is used a lot in this forum. Emotional experience is not expressed in words or pictures, but by feeling what is happening, a connection to the One we love. Affirmation is silent, timeless, thankful, clear thinking, knowing without a doubt.
Wordwise, is it better to say Space is Spirit than to say it is mind?
Space bless us all. |
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Bill Fisher
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Wave management
Algorithm - A precise rule (or set of rules) specifying how to solve some problem
Algorithm as wave – A precise wave (or set of waves) specifying how to solve some problem
Wave structure of water: H2O
Wave algorithm to produce hydroxyl: H20 + hv H + OH
hv = UV wave
Wave structure applies to everything
Wave structure of spirit is space
Wave structure of life is spirit
Do you suppose this means life is everywhere  |
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Bill Back
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Life is everywhere imagined. Waves live as one atom. Atoms live as one cell. Cells live as one body, Bodies live as one Ecosystem. The world lives as one. The solar system lives as one. Galaxies live as one. The universe lives as one. The unity lives at all levels at once.
Waves naturally manage themselves, because they are aware they are one. Man mismanages a lot because often we are not aware that we are one. One system thinking is needed to properly manage anything.
Today’s Question: “Can space exist without waves or matter?” |
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northjetty
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The answer is obviously no. Space, in the act of vibration had to have always existed in order for it to be existing right now. This is the mystery of existence, It simply exists. People think that this can be dodged by applying the big bang theory, but then they have to address what existed in order to expand into everything now? The big bang can not be the beginning, there would have to be something pre-existing in order to expand outward and become everything that exists today. So the issue is the same through particle physics as well. Existence can have no solid starting point, no definite origin.
Infinite space solves the issue of what exists outside of our "observable universe". It solves the issue of what existed all along in order to be existing right now. It's one system, and we are thinking in a one system format here on the forum. The problem is that most people seem to be incapable of thinking in these terms. This is why the 'infinite and finite' is an age old mythic motif, but very few people understand it. This all too deep for most people and they feel as if none of this matters at all, as if it isn't practical. This cosmology needs to become the standard model of popular modern science. This is what needs to take place in order for our societies to be able to base themselves on this new physical understanding of what human being's are in relationship to one another, and the infinite space out there as well. Every other aspect will fall into place once this cosmology is realized and accepted by the larger physics community.
That's how Joe's "one system thinking" ideas will fall into place. The majority of people base there idea's on what popular science is describing, such as the post-modern world view depending on a statistical measurement of the electron. The new world view would be based on an accurate measurement of the electron, thus ending uncertainty altogether and bringing a close to the post-modern uncertainty based world view. But the wsm cosmology must rise to the level of the standard cosmology model in order for any of this to occur from my own view of it.
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Harry Costas
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Hello North Jetty
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northjetty
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Thanks Harry
I was watching a show on the 'big bang theory' on the science channel last night. They got to the point of the 'expansion boundary' in the program and then confessed that it's 'possible' that space goes on 'past it'. They mentioned that there is matter all the way out to as far as we can see and they then confessed that it's entirely 'possible' that it goes on past the area of our 'limited observations' to extend 'infinitely'.
I thought that it was a rather progressive program. I think that's how all of this progressive modern thinking is going to 'ease in slowly' over time into television programming.
First, conceding that it's possible that space goes on infinitely, then eventually getting to where we have a 'new and improved' standard model altogether. I feel that the door is slowly opening in mainstream cosmology for the 'wsm model' to be able to move into a 'standard model status' at some point-it's truth, it will find a way. Then, of course, the worlds 'religious communities' will be looking at how to integrate the 'new knowledge', and new found 'truth' into there own 'institutional structures' and 'personal belief systems'. How long it will take, who knows? Here's Milo on the subject.
Final Speculation on the Origin of Consciousness
"It is evident that the 'matter waves' of the universe are the underlying 'source' of the action we observe in our 'human energy world', even though the matter waves are 'unseen' - like the 'puppeteer behind the curtain'. This process is available for use by nature in 'designing our evolutionary development'. Did it happen (evolution) ? If it did, then it's not 'unreasonable' that our 'brain' and other parts of our neural physiology are 'interconnected by an unseen communication network that coordinates and regulates behavior of certain parts of the body'. Since energy exchange is not involved at this matter wave level, we would not have a sensory impression of logical thought, only an 'awareness of ourselves and our body'. More research is needed to know, but in view of the intricacy of our neural structures, the work will not be easy.
The range of experiments needed to verify consciousness or extra-sensory perception is almost as large as human imagination. An example is the philosophy of my daughter Jennifer, who was the illustrator and artist for my book (Wolff, 1990) which first described the wave structure of matter. After reading the book, my daughter has acquired 'new beliefs on consciousness'. As a scientist, I cannot propose beliefs not based on 'laboratory facts', but my daughter has no such inhibitions. She uses the matter wave theory to explain things that had formerly puzzled her. She explains, "Consciousness can be active. If I pray that a sick friend's cancer will be cured, I visualize my thoughts traveling on matter waves that connect my mind to my sick friend's mind."
The matter wave theory has been happily 'integrated' into her 'existing belief system'. She says "I just ignored the complex math, I don't understand it. Perhaps what we think of as 'God', is only the 'interconnections between us' at this wave/particle level " and " I don't care if it's (called) 'God' or 'matter waves', all I need to know is that 'all human beings are connected to each other' and that 'prayer and my human thoughts are powerful' and using the 'consciousness of my mind' 'communicates' them for me."-Milo Wolff
This WSM cosmology is certainly 'friendly' to ideas such as the "Power of prayer", the "Law of attraction", the "Power of intention", "Following your bliss" etc.-the popular 'mind' issues of today. People who've had a strong 'faith' in their lives can see how 'practical' of an idea 'praying' actually is with regards to the 'interconnected network of energy and information exchange' that we're all members of. This broad view of physical reality can easily be integrated into just about anyone's personal belief's, as long as the belief's deal with the interconnected nature of all things-'matter-to-matter, or 'mind-to-matter' interactions in some way. The basis for understanding how we effect things around us with our thoughts is fairly obvious when realizing that we each exist in about a '10^80' spherical area of 'mutual quantum wave interaction' where we share in/out waves with the surrounding matter that we exist with. This is a Far better cosmology for the worlds religions than the current 'standard model cosmology' any day of the week from my own view.
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northjetty
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One aspect of correspondence between time and the old "I am" God's and Goddess's is the use of the terms "I was, I am, I will be" for their 'names'.
" I am yesterday, today, and tommorrow".
This corresponds to the wave center being 'I am"-present
The outwaves going as "I was"-past
The inwaves going as "I will be"-future
So the in-wave (I will be) going into the standing wave center (I am) becomes the out-wave (I was).
The future is the past and the past is the future, as an in-wave is an out-wave from a different center, and an out-wave is an in-wave to a different center. As odd as it is, these ideas seem to line up well.
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NJ / Mr SpaceMan,
Very well said. Clear, simple, true, profound. Covers more than many thousands of books written on this. Worth a PhD as is - and a Nobel prize.
Explains foundation of so many things (e.g. Direction of time, solution to thermodynamics and 2nd law / max. entropy, Karma, Mach's principle and the structure of the observable universe within infinite space, uniting finite and infinite, discrete and continuous, absolute and relative, eternal and temporal, ... and much more.
SO much for you all to explain as you re-write the foundations of human knowledge.
Amazing power really!
Social Networking
This is a good thread - can everyone please (please please!) add it into all social networking sites listed below (at bottom of each forum page).
It takes about 10 minutes once you are a member of these sites - and it builds 100s of good links (will really help us with Google - I am sure of this!).
Some tags:
physics , philosophy , metaphysics , science , theory , space , time , matter , motion , connection , TEO , GUT , particle , field , nature , laws , quantum , Einstein , relativity , cosmology , universe , big bang , infinite , finite , discrete , continuous , truth , reality , ...
Just copy a nice piece of text that is a good summary - paste that and the above tags. Try and mass produce so you have all 12 pages open and you can go along and paste same tags in each one, then paste summary text in each one, and submit. Simple and fast. (I use firefox, social network links automatically open windows in new tabs, and have page url and title inserted using javascript.)
More tags the better - they each equate to another link on another page at their site pointing to us!
This is interesting knowledge that is important - help humanity by showing them this.
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