Philosophy of Mind: Interconnection Matter Mind Universe

[haselhurst]

Philosophy of Mind: Interconnection of Matter Mind & Universe

This is a copy of an email I received from Kevin Beers several months ago. I think it has further information that is useful to this forum.
Geoff
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Dear Mr Beers,
Thanks for writing.
A few further comments below.
Geoff

" kbeers@mycingular.com" wrote:
Mr. Haselhurst,

My friend and I stumbled across your website by chance while discussing the concept of Truth. I am a philosophy major and he a Psychology student and we kill time at work by having such discussions.

Geoff - You are lucky to work with someone who shares an interest in such subjects, which is rare. I live very isolated and miss this social aspect of society. But then Nature has its own charms!

Let me begin by complimenting your site. ( especially since it has been re-done) It is an amazing collection of ideas and interconnections of the greatest thinkers ever. It has been a valuable research tool for many of my own theories.

Geoff - I am glad you appreciate it (also very rare!). These philosophers are like friends to me, I find the way they write charming, and their intelligence reassuring. I also find that knowledge of the Wave Structure of Matter seems to explain a lot of their problems. I am glad it is useful to you - which is its main function.

As for your own theories on the spherical wave structure of matter, I am not as knowledgeable on Physics as I would like, but being student of philosophy, and seeing the universe as a whole, I think your theories make many things possible.

Geoff - If I were to summarise philosophy:

1. We (Humans) can image many things, but only some of them are true. Philosophy is the art of working out our true ideas from mere imagination.

2. Reality must be founded on One continuously connected thing, to explain the interconnection of our mind, body and other matter in universe. This allows us to have absolute truth, which comes from necessary connection of absolute space. i.e. To overcome postmodern relativism (Nietzsche, Wittgenstein et al) we must connect our language to what physically exists, to give absolute (rather than relative to other words) meaning to our words and knowledge.

In fact it supports some of my theories on the shared quality of consciousness. Not a collective unconscious as with Jung, but more with an actual connectivity of the human mind with other conscious beings. Even if on a subconscious level. But that's another matter entirely.

Geoff - I am inclined to agree. Matter is subtly interconnected, thus mind (which is only experienced with motion of matter in humans) is also subtly interconnected. Effectively life (particularly genetic structures) act as resonators and can resonantly couple with other similar structures / life and exchange information / knowledge.

My point here is that I think your theory is very interesting, but not knowing physics as well as I could, I don't truly understand it. Could you explain in a more detailed way in laymen's terms? I would interested in understanding it better.
Beers "Reconsider Everything" -311

Geoff - Where do I begin? I think it is best if you read the articles on Einstein's relativity, quantum theory, cosmology and metaphysics, then ask questions if you don't understand anything.
See;

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Albert-Einstein-Theory-Relativity.htm

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Quantum-Theory-Mechanics.htm

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Cosmology.htm

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Metaphysics-Principles-Reality.htm

I hope this helps. It is great to see someone who studies philosophy actually take an interest in truth and reality! and the related subjects of physics and metaphysics.

All the best,
Geoff Haselhurst
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Mr. Haselhurst,
I have been studying Spaceandmotion.com with renewed enthusiasm.

Geoff - What a nice attitude.

I think I am beginning to understand the wave structure of matter a little better. The classic concept of space is as a void. It is considered nothingness. Your theory refutes that by seeing space as something rather than the absence of everything. It in itself is a wave medium. Matter is comprised of this standing waves in this medium which we call space. It makes better sense to me now.

Geoff - Good summary. It follows Aristotle's ideas that a substance must have properties, we should never consider Space on its own, but always Space and its properties as a wave medium (for spherical standing waves that form matter). This then unites Matter, Time and Forces / Fields with one thing Space.

The website is much easier to navigate and understand since the last time I gave it serious study months and months ago. I have only begun to study the sections on Metaphysics and I'm sure more understanding will follow.

Geoff - It will be much better again in 6 months (I hope!). And it takes months / years for our 'feeble' minds to evolve and adapt to new knowledge (most don't!), so i hope you will be patient!

I think my main concern right now is how does consciousness tie in to this view? If everything is essential built out waves in the same substance, then why does some living animate matter gain consciousness? Beers

Geoff - The superficial answer is evolution. Matter forms more complex replicating structures over billions of years that are entangled with other matter across the Universe. The world that we experience, though it is caused by waves in space, is a creative representation of the mind which maximises our survival (thus the world we sense is clearly different (though related to) the real world which causes this).
The WSM explains three important aspects of mind / consciousness;

1. How our brain and body can sense other matter around us (due to wave interactions of spherical In Waves with other matter).

2. How we can have memory and logic. If all matter is in continual motion (as a wave motion of space) then only interconnected repeating motions can remain stable (store knowledge). Large scale examples of this are the earth orbiting the Sun, which gives rise to repeating motions which can be used to logically calculate Earth's future position.

3. Free Will Vs Determinism. Both are incorrect. While matter is necessarily connected (by one thing Space), over long periods of time it is not deterministic (we can't calculate the future position of the Earth 5 billion years from now). i.e. As Space is Infinite it is impossible to determine the initial location and motion of all other matter (which is necessary in a deterministic system). Importantly though, because of this infinite Space, there are many possible futures for matter / humans, and we can imagine and act on some of these possible futures. However, our free will is limited, we can imagine flapping our arms and flying, but our actions are limited by Space and its wave properties (one of which is Gravity, the slowing of waves in high wave density Space).

The WSM does not yet explain consciousness itself (as you point out) though it suggests that it is a product of a very large memory, and a system that is constantly in motion analysing relationships between things we remember, and able to 'replay' these memories as we think (imagine words / sounds).
I have thought a lot about the mind (my own mainly) and what it really means to be conscious. It is a very interesting subject, and obviously fundamental to all knowledge of reality.
Nice to hear from you, hope this helps a little. I look forward to your further thoughts.
Geoff
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Mr. Haselhurst,

This semester I am taking Philosophy of Psychology. I am writing a paper on my own theories and versions of Collective Mind Theory. On the possibility that the human mind is not a distinct individual but rather that it is subtly connected. My point in contacting you with this is that your metaphysical theory of Standing waves in space makes this theory possible. I Would like to interview you through an email survey and use your answers and ideas in my paper ( with proper bibliographical credit of course). Please let me know if this would be possible. It would be most useful to that section of my paper. Thanks, Kevin Beers

Hi Beers,

Sounds great. I have sent a copy of this to KP (see email below, after your earlier comments) as it seems that your work is (or should be) related and perhaps we can all help one another in this relatively new field of knowledge. There is clearly a history of knowledge dating back to the ancients on this dynamic unity of reality (so it seems to me both sensible and important that we study and understand the mind based upon these foundations!) Look forward to hearing from you with questions.
Geoff
http://www.spaceandmotion.com
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Below is a related email from KP with further comments that may be of interest. Geoff

Hi KP,
Thanks for your enthusiasm and knowledge. I have written quite a substantial reply, as I think what you are doing is very important, and i cannot help but think the work that we are doing on the WSM will be very useful to you.
Geoff Haselhurst

hi, gosh, very impressive website.

Geoff - I have received a few nice letters recently about the site, and I must tell you that it really does help. Karene and I are in the process of re-writing and re-structuring website and it is a bit of a daunting task (parts are very good, parts are crap).

I'm a graduate student in depth psychology doing my dissertation on the archetypal aspects of play, and have just come across some stuff that you might want to include. my dissertation adviser is dr. stanislav grof (who did LSD research in the 60's) and he is founder of international transpersonal association ITA, just had a conference in June (the tapes are available at conference recording services) they had some really good speakers, among them were Ervin Laszlo and Peter Russell. Grof, Russell and Laszlo wrote a book called consciousness revolution which is really good, and Peter Russell wrote Global Brain and is very interesting. But what i think you would find most interesting is Laszlo's work. I have just read his books The Connectivity Hypothesis and Science and the Akashic Field. The latter book, especially links the cosmic void to what the ancients knew as the akashic field, and Laszlo is one of the founders of systems theory. He began his career as a concert pianist and has done very serious study and written over 30 books and has done lots of work for the UN.

Geoff - I have not heard of depth psychology. Sounds interesting. You are definitely in an important area of these subjects though, by understanding that our sense of separate and discrete objects / bodies is clearly an illusion. Reason tells us that everything is interconnected in a logical manner, our senses confirm this (e.g. earth orbits sun). This is really the foundation of the WSM, that there is one thing, space which does logically connect matter, as spherical waves propagating through space. It is interesting to consider this subtle connection of matter in its application to our mind, which is clearly connected with both the motion of matter, and different brain wave patterns. I think of this when i observe crowds - and I have always found crowd behaviour fascinating, probably from my time playing and watching sport. But i think this larger view of self helps to explain that there are likely very subtle interconnections between humans, their bodies and minds, and other life in the space around us, particularly other humans. I have a page on wave genetics (just use search option at website to find) and it is confirming this view that genetic structures are resonators, and they are resonantly connected to other genetic structures, perhaps resonating with all other life on earth. To what effect this subtle 'energy' connection of life, and related to this the subtle connection of human minds, has on us I don't know, but it seems to certainly be an important area of research, and will no doubt become very famous one day in the not too distant future. It has truth on its side, which over time becomes an important ally!

The connectivity hypothesis gives lots of math stuff, in which he talks about a field called the psi-field (which he is now calling the A-field) and he shows how this goes a long way to show different anomalies in various branches of science as being solved by the presence of this field, the quantum vacuum state which would explain things as disparate as non-locality and also many different phenomena of consciousness.

Geoff - I agree. I think though that when formalising theories of reality, there is required good knowledge of not just physics, but also philosophy and metaphysics. From this the only conclusion that you can come to that works, and explains their problems, must be founded on One continuously connected infinite eternal substance existing. And for science to work that must be space. And for Quantum theory, relativity and cosmology to work it must be matter existing as spherical standing waves in space. There is no other way to do it. This is what i am trying to write up at the moment. (This rant will make more sense as you read the main pages in the website!) My point is that while they are clearly correct in their foundations of 'dynamic unity' if you like (connectivity comes from unity of substance) I suspect their language at the metaphysical level will still be a bit vague in its connection to physical reality. But i look forward to reading it, its very interesting and I greatly appreciate you providing this information. My partner Karene also finds this interconnection aspect of life and mind and nature / ecology pretty cool so she will be excited by your letter!

I think that you would both really enjoy Science and the Akashic Field. I've just scanned your website very quickly, and will look at it in greater length soon and will link my dissertation to it when I finish it as it will be a website. Well, gotta go back to work on the dissertation. All the best and i look forward to exploring your site. best regards. k p

Geoff - I look forward to learning more about this. Thanks for taking the time to write a very useful and interesting letter to us. You will do well with your dissertation, you explain things sensibly and you are learning the correct foundations for explaining the world that you experience (which is a big advantage!). It is people like you, with open intelligent enquiring minds, that are the reason why i do my work as a philosopher. So you give me hope and determination to carry on with this difficult path that I have chosen in life! To change / correct the errors in the foundations of human knowledge, as a way of changing and improving the direction of our thoughts and actions, and ultimately our evolving human civilisation. But I am one of those old fashioned philosophers who believes in the power of truth, that humans do ultimately seek wisdom (it is just correct knowledge that they lack)

my website is just beginning, we put it up mainly for advisor to see what it would begin to look like, and its called cosmicplay.net. will notify you when i finish it, as it may be of interest.

Here is a rambling reply, that I think you will find interesting. I first imagined the wave structure of matter after reading Lorentz and Einstein back in 1997. I then spent five years studying physics philosophy and metaphysics and applying knowledge of WSM to them. And I became convinced that the wave structure of matter is correct in its description of physical reality. It abides by the very necessary rules of simplicity of science / unity of metaphysics / necessary connection of philosophy (being founded on One thing) and basically solves so many problems in such a simple and obvious way. It is quite an amazing thing to experience really - to see how silly we have been through history in ignoring such an obvious solution for describing how matter exists in space. Humans are strange is my final conclusion!

Anyway, 2 years ago i turned my mind to the next phase, how do you get this knowledge into the world, so it can be fairly considered by many others (once you understand the history and evolution of knowledge, the philosophy / psychology of human nature, you appreciate the difficulties new knowledge (and its bearers!) face with a hostile public). And I quickly learnt that there are sqillions of crackpot theorists on the internet and this causes great problems for a philosopher's credibility, as any claims to do with truth and reality instantly make one a crackpot! So it became obvious to me that you must build a website that gets many tens of thousands of visitors a day, and this requires getting pages in top ten in Google for relevant search terms. So this then led to quite a diversion from my work in philosophy physics metaphysics, to becoming an expert at understanding Google, and how to dominate the internet in your chosen subjects! Having a logical philosophical (curious as to how things work, think a lot) mind, and having studied and experimented with many thousands of pages on Google for two years now, spent hundreds of hours analysing search results, seeing which changes work best, read thousands of articles on Search Engine Optimisation etc, I think I have a very good understanding of what is required. So now, after 14 months of having website up, and making mistakes and fixing things up that wasted half that time (and were very frustrating and demoralising!) we now are at the final stage. And you happen to write at a time when i am actually very excited about the latest Google dance / database update. Our website stats doubled after the last Google update (a week ago - we now get 15,000 to 20,000 page views a day). After 14 months, the pages on Einstein's relativity and quantum theory now both rank top 20 out of many millions for main search terms. I am amazed at how quickly it has happened - so i am under pressure to improve pages!. (Both read by lots of people AND have good quality knowledge that is simple and sensible is the ultimate key to success as i see things - so I have lots of work to do on improving quality now!)

And i have done little to promote them, as I have been building a presence in other large websites on the internet. So over the next 6 months I am pretty confident that I will have top ten pages in many of the major physics philosophy and metaphysics search terms. So I feel that I am actually going to succeed at half of the problem, getting this knowledge considered by a lot of people. I am now devoting my time to improving the quality of knowledge. And i hope others will help over time.

How does this affect you. i have important knowledge that you need to know, before you start building a website. You should study it if you want to get your work seriously read on the internet (99.9 % of sites are pretty much ignored / hidden). In my How to help the WSM section I am building a comprehensive guide on how to build and promote a website so that it ranks highly in Google - hopefully to help others build work on the WSM and get it seen on the internet, and to also help build link strength and ranking for main pages in www.spaceandmotion.com website by getting links, from them. It will be not be finished in its basic form for another 2 -4 weeks, and over the next year it will grow and improve I suspect, as others help. So please read the website a bit, you will see big changes over the next month. And I would love your opinion of it all at some time in the future.
All the best with your studies,
Geoff
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/how-to-help-the-wave-structure-of-matter.htm

wow, thanks for the reply. i'm very excited to pursue both the philosophical and website sides of your site. depth psychology is really wonderful, based on the work of freud, jung and hillman. nietzsche had a big effect on them, as i've just recently learned, and he was very into hereclitus, whose writings are very in line with the hindu view of the world. i got to meet doug engelbart, the inventor of the mouse and basically the inventor of the internet and a lot of other things that have really affected where we are today--he had a vision in 1950 about a way to help people handle information better, based on an article by a guy in the 40's named vanever bush, who was an advisor to roosevelt. doug was a radar guy in ww II and i think may have invented the monitor as well, because he thought that the human computer interface needed to be more than just punchcards and printouts. he is 80 now and he still has so much to offer. anyway, the reason i bring it up is that he and my friend diane, who is on his board (bootstrap.org) were at google the other day watching a big screen that displayed all of the searches going on, and diane told me that she said it was like watching the mind of god. anyway. thought you might find that interesting. jung was the one that coined the term synchronicity and worked on this idea with wolfgang pauli, a quantum physicist and einstein encouraged jung in this line of study. gotta go, will keep in touch, and at some point if you want, i'll send you my first substantial chapter that deals with play, not finished yet, but maybe by next month.
take care and keep up the good work, all the best, KP