paulie diving headlong into the meta-realm

[freelight]

Hi all,

This site is the bomb. I am looking to sharpen my knowledge of physics in its truest meta-form! Wow,.....where to begin? My interests and writing forte' is more in the philosophical/theological realm...but I have found meta-physics most essential to give substance to these realms of logic. Right now I am exploring what I call Theontology (study of divine Existence/Being and also mans existence in relation). Also the nature of Reality and Time as it exists in the Absolute and Relative are my passion right now. I could use any of your helps to assist me in this wonderful journey.

Heres a little webpage to share a little about me and my current ventures -
(http://www.freewebs.com/pauljosephpurcell/)

Currently reading Stephen Hawkings 'A brief history of time' - as a primer to get the fundamentals down. Also theres a thread-link in my 'Current Dialogues' page on a discussion of 'God and Time' if any want to see my current views on time as we were discussing the concept of God existing 'outside' of time. Hopefully something here can assist me in my studies on time relative to Infinity, creation, nature of Reality, etc. Oh there's so much. Thanks for any help


paul

[haselhurst]

Theology Metaphysics Time

Hi Paul,
Checked out your website - you are a bit more 'spiritual' than most who join this forum I suspect.
The Wave Structure of Matter is founded on One (and only one) thing existing, Space, with properties of a wave medium.
In Philosophy / Metaphysics it is accepted that all words are human constructions (they did not exist prior to our evolution). Thus 'God' must be carefully defined if it is to have any real meaning. If we take it to mean that which infinitely and eternally exists and causes all things, then the WSM says that God is just another word for Space and its wave motions.
Time is simply explained as being caused by matter's activity due to its wave structure (waves are always in motion).

I wonder how this all sits with your view of things. Certainly in this forum people are bound by this central principle of the WSM.

Regards,
Geoff

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Time.htm

[freelight]

Hi Geoff,

Thanks so much for responding! Its a pleasure as I have been meaning to share/explain more of my interest with your informative website.

Yes,....my purview is certainly more theosophic...yet I also realize the pertinence of a true metaphysical system/understanding behind ones spiritual perception of God, the Universe, reality, etc. I find the premise of WSM profound in simplicity and your discourse of coordinating the One and the Many, the Absolute and Relative....right on target with my most recent ponderings.

I have gathered from my reserach so far about WSM that God would have to be identified with/as Infinite Space and its wave motions. This opens wonderful and innovative new dimensions about the nature of God. My primary and most pointed interest is factoring in how Consciousness, Intelligence is related to this Space and if it is implied that an innate Intelligence must exist within the substance of Space in order for wave-mediums and motions to fluctuate.

I would call my current studies theontological as well...as I am exploring God as 'Being' and 'Consciousness'....and surveying the metaphysics that would need to be innate within such a purview of God. Hence my interest in what WSM could show me...and what I might be able to contribute to WSM theorization.

I would appreciate your insights into the nature of Consciousness and where you see it inhere-ing within a WSM paradigm....and meta-physics in general. It would seem essential particularly for spiritual scientists to enter into this study....which is why I am here.

If there is a better forum for this discussion or you prefer we continue it in another section, let me know.

Thank You,

paul

[haselhurst]

Hi Paul,
Thanks for comments. Interesting.

Yes, we probably should move this discussion into two areas in this Forum, sections on Theology / Religion, and Philosophy of Mind (rather than this current 'hello / introduction' section).

It would be nice if you could go through above posts (and also read relevant sections in this forum and on http://www.spaceandmotion.com website) and pick out some of the central issues that interest you that are relevant to WSM.

From my point of view, while I see no problems in associating God with Space and its wave motions (very pantheist!) there are considerable difficulties in explaining the human mind. However, we can explain things like our senses / connection to 'external' world and how we can store knowledge (memory) through interconnected repeating wave motions).

And from the foundations of WSM it is quite valid to enquire as to whether consciousness exists at a higher level of organisation (so 'God', while still being made of the same stuff as us!, could have a mind). I don't see any need for intelligent design to explain evolution of life, but Infinite Space is pretty big! so there is a lot out there that we are very ignorant off. An open skeptical mind is a useful foundation in this case.

I do though wish to emphasise that if you want to introduce 'mind' or 'consciousness' as another 'substance' that exists (or God), well you are going to find that this also introduces many more problems than it solves (the Dynamic Unity of reality is necessary, thus if WSM is correct, then Mind / God must be explained in terms of Wave Motions of Space).

Look forward to your further thoughts.
Geoff