"When forced to summarize the general theory of relativity in one sentence: Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter. ... Physical objects are not in space, but these objects are spatially extended ... thus the concept of particles cannot play a fundamental part, ... and can only appear as a limited region in space in which the field strength or energy density are particularly high."
(Albert Einstein, Metaphysics of Relativity, 1950)
"It is my firm belief that the last seven decades of the twentieth century will be characterized in history as the dark ages of theoretical physics. ... The quantum world is a world of waves, not particles."
(Carver Mead, Professor Emeritus at Caltech. Received $500,000 Lemelson-MIT Prize in 1999)
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mike
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:10 am Post subject: New Experiment For WSM in Electric Fields |
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Hello All,
I wanted to post some of the latest research I have been doing on WSM. Specifically, I have been working on an experiment to show that electric fields are, like particles, simply manifestations of wave structures. A good reference on this is Carver Meade's new book, "Collective Electrodynamics" where Meade demonstrates how EM theory can solve problems if the electron is treated not as a particle but a standing-matter wave (different than deBroglie waves were the electron is in relative motion). I am currently doing wave interference experiments with an electric-field and gamma ray source (which happens to be at the same wavelength as the Compton wavelength of the electron). Below is a link to my theory and experimental results and I would welcome any suggestions or ideas.
http://www.signaldisplay.com/electric.html
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Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 728 Location: Planet Earth, Milky Way, Universe, Infinite Space. Status: Endangered Species. Cause: Ignorance
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:55 pm Post subject: WSM and Electric Fields |
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for posting this.
As both Milo and I have noted, your work is very logical and a pleasure to read. I hope in time more people will realise this!!
A nice relevant quote from Carver Mead (I just finished reading his book, "Collective Electrodynamics").
"The quantum world is a world of waves, not particles. So we have to think of electron waves and proton waves and so on. Matter is "incoherent" when all its waves have a different wavelength, implying a different momentum. On the other hand, if you take a pure quantum system - the electrons in a superconducting magnet, or the atoms in a laser - they are all in phase with one another, and they demonstrate the wave nature of matter on a large scale. Then you can see quite visibly what matter is down at its heart." (Carver Mead Interview, American Spectator, Sep/Oct 2001, Vol. 34 Issue 7, p68)
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Harry Costas
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Hello Hselhurst
How can you have a wave without a partical and a partical without a wave?
Is it not like the chicken and the egg. |
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Aireal
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Harry
Mike Harney's work was one of the first things that attracted me to W.S.M. His work had much in common with my work on radiation shielding.
The concept of a standing wave bridges the gap between particles and waves and unites the two concepts.
Modern physics keeps them separate. Most of the time they only deal with the particle aspect. Only QFT gives any weight to the effects of waves, and then only reluctantly. My QFT textbook states at the start that most physicists do not believe QFT, but only use it because the math works for high energy collisions. Nowhere do they make use of standing waves. So it is modern physics that separates the two.
A standing wave center has the attributes of a particle and a wave and unites these two concepts effectively. You can have waves without particles, but all particles have waves. Matter waves permeate the universe, yet the universe is not a giant particle, so it is clear that waves can exist in space without particles. But standing waves centers are another story.
Standing wave centers are created by these waves only when there is sufficient energy density for their formation. This is why the universe is not one giant particle.
I hope that helps, let me know if you have farther questions regarding this matter.
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Harry Costas
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Hello Aerial
you said
| Quote: | | A standing wave center has the attributes of a particle and a wave and unites these two concepts effectively. You can have waves without particles, but all particles have waves. Matter waves permeate the universe, yet the universe is not a giant particle, so it is clear that waves can exist in space without particles. But standing waves centers are another story. |
Yes I agree with you.
Sometimes I say things without thinking and sometimes I say things while I'm thinking and sometime it just goes through one ear and comes out the other side. |
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