Mike Harney: WSM Cosmology, Time / Wave Motion

[mike]

Hi Geoff,
I have done some reading on the WSM theory of Cosmology and found some interesting correlations. For example, in the WSM theory of Cosmology (correct me if I am wrong), time dilation is really just the relative speed of our local matter waves with respect to surrounding waves?

Geoff - I think that is one way of looking at it. Perhaps better to talk in terms of time as frequency of electron as spherical standing wave. When it is moving, waves have different velocity from one direction to another (wave-center always moves in direction of slowest incoming waves). However, I am not convinced that frequency of matter changes with motion, I am inclined to think that for any change in wave velocity there is a corresponding change in wavelength so that frequency stays the same. Thus there is no time dilation with motion, and that wherever Einstein talks about time dilation he has assumed a constant velocity of waves. We should turn this around other way, that there is really a constant time, and matter's waves have a different velocity from one or more directions (the maths of Special relativity still work out the same as far as i can tell). See;
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Albert-Einstein-Theory-Relativity.htm

Mike - More to the point, it looks like time dilation with respect to a mass would be the ratio of that masses outlet wave speed to the masses' inlet wave speed (inlet waves coming from distant matter beyond our Hubble sphere?). This ratio then is what we perceive as time dilation, although both of them are correct for their own reference frame which makes relativity happy (which is good because this is also what we measure experimentally!).

Geoff - We do not directly get any In-Waves from matter outside our Hubble sphere (finite spherical universe in Infinite Space), they have all travelled through a Wave-Center in our finite sphere / universe. So I am more inclined to say that waves only come from other matter's Out-waves in our finite spherical universe (but yes, these waves do come in from infinity). Perhaps this is what you mean.
Again, time is really a human construction, that matter is in motion (as wave motion of space). So need to be careful in using this term. I think it is best to work with absolute time (human construction) as a way of measuring absolute velocity of waves in Space.

Mike - What I have found with the elastic space model is essentially the same thing - that the time dilation effect due to a gravitational source (mass) which is also a local matter wave center, has a formula that produces time dilation based on the ratio of the speed of waves from the mass to the point of measurement from the mass to the speed of waves from Mach's effect from distant matter (which is always c in our Hubble sphere). The closer one is to a mass, the higher the speed of waves from the mass are at this close point of measurement, than if the measurement is made farther away where the waves from the mass are slowing down and are small in speed compared to the universal wave speed, c. This actually matches, apple for apple, the time dilation formula from Schwarzschild solution as I have shown in equations 19-29 of www.signaldisplay.com/debroglie.html This makes more sense than treating time as a fourth variable and watching it get warped by the solution to a non=linear diffeq. Also, how would time stop at a blackhole anyway?!! Time stops for no one because we are all moving relative to something else, right? Time is relative to the background due to Mach's principle.
Mike

Geoff - As I see it spherical In-Waves should travel faster as they get closer to Wave-Center and have higher Wave Amplitude. This relates to charge. However, it seems to me that there is also a slight slowing of waves with higher Wave Density that causes gravity effects. You must take into account this combined affect to calculate true changes in wave velocity (basically then you are uniting charge and mass into one field theory founded on waves).
Time stops for no one because matter is always in motion (even when wave-center 'particle' is stationary in space) because matter is really the spherical wave motion of space. If you could stop the wave motions then yes, there would be no time, but there would also be no matter, just empty Space.
This is a profound metaphysical change for Physics, from 'particles and fields' in a metaphysics of Space and Time, to WSM where 'particles, 'fields' and 'time' are all caused by the wave motion of Space, i.e. Metaphysics of Space and (wave) Motion.
Does this make sense Mike?! It is important because it connects these many things of modern physics back to one common thing that we all commonly experience, Space (and its Properties as Wave Medium for Wave Motions).
Hope this helps a little. It is interesting seeing how your mind has so many artifacts of modern physics, how you must adjust these concepts to new physics founded on waves in space. We are effectively translating and re-defining meaning of words from modern physics, to correct foundations from physical reality. But it is not easy. Be patient. This is where philosophy and use of language are important.
As Wittgenstein wrote;
"Philosophical problems arise when language goes on holidays."

We are forcing language back to work for us, after a holiday of several thousand years! To do this we must correctly connect words to real things that physically exist (rather than to things we imagine to exist, that do not really exist, like particles, forces, and time).
Geoff

[haselhurst]

Hi Mike,
Have added comments to above post.
Also changed Title to be more relevant to page content! (both for our benefit of finding things, and for better search terms / visibility on internet).
Geoff

[Harry Costas]

Hello All


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Just letting you know that I'm reading and doing my homework.

I agree with TIME. Time does not stop for anybody. We have the abilty to slow down and bend light, but this does not mean we have the abilty to change time. We can record the time of receiving the light information and although they may be different it does not mean we have recorded a change in time.

I feel sometimes going around in a circle. It takes time.