"When forced to summarize the general theory of relativity in one sentence: Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter. ... Physical objects are not in space, but these objects are spatially extended ... thus the concept of particles cannot play a fundamental part, ... and can only appear as a limited region in space in which the field strength or energy density are particularly high."
(Albert Einstein, Metaphysics of Relativity, 1950)
"It is my firm belief that the last seven decades of the twentieth century will be characterized in history as the dark ages of theoretical physics. ... The quantum world is a world of waves, not particles."
(Carver Mead, Professor Emeritus at Caltech. Received $500,000 Lemelson-MIT Prize in 1999)
Note (Jan, 2008) This forum is currently locked. You are welcome to browse and read posts.
Forum will re-open in 2008 when work at our main
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:47 am Post subject: Metaphysics - Any thoughts on this Link text? |
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Hi Everyone,
We are about to employ two people part time to help build links to our spaceandmotion website, as part of a plan to get pages on the Metaphysics of Space / Wave Structure of Matter visible to the world, by getting them to rank highly in Google / Internet.
Any thoughts on the following link text appreciated. Is it interesting / understandable - could it just be posted in forums, blogs etc. as is without pissing people off (so to speak)?
Thanks,
Geoff and Karene
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(Aristotle, Metaphysics, 340 BC) 'The first philosophy (Metaphysics) is universal and is exclusively concerned with primary substance. ... And here we will have the science to study that which is just as that which is, both in its essence and in the properties which, just as a thing that is, it has. ... There must then be a principle of such a kind that its substance is activity. ... that among entities there must be some cause which moves and combines things. ... about its coming into being and its doings and about all its alterations we think that we have knowledge when we know the source of its movement. ... it is impossible that the primary existent, being eternal, should be destroyed.'
What is Metaphysics: Explaining Famous Philosopher's Definitions of Metaphysics / Metaphysical Principles of Reality - Quotes by philosophers Aristotle, Gottfried Leibniz, David Hume, Immanuel Kant and Albert Einstein on Metaphysics. On the dynamic unity of reality and the metaphysical principles of Space and (wave) Motion (rather than 'Space and Time') as the most simple foundation for the sciences. From particles and fields (matter / energy) in space time to waves in space. Explaining matter's interconnected motion and activity (time) by uniting Space, time, matter and motion. One substance, Space, exists with the properties of a wave medium, matter is formed from spherical standing wave motions of Space. |
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Steve Anthony

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Hi Geoff,
Nice work!
Some of the problems I have encountered are that people (generally) have trouble understanding what 'metaphysics' is at all! They seem to take the 'either'/'or' approach, and disregard it as either 'not quite 'religion', or 'not quite 'science', leaving them a little non-commital over the whole subject. This is a crying shame, in my opinion, as it appears to be an important link between the two.
I feel that one problem with the whole concept, is that people feel it is a bit too 'elitist', or 'intellectual', and these are things that DO 'piss people off!
(I had a quick scan over this post last night, but thought i'd sleep on it, and come back to you...I wrote these notes down before sleeping; "The truth can never 'piss people off'. People piss themselves off, when they refuse to accept the Truth!")
The problem is, of course, getting people to accept that there might be any 'Truth' at all in 'metaphysics'. Everyone is a skeptic. And many people feel divided by current political agendas. "You're either with us, or you're against us!" - (who said that?)
When I visit American forums (which most of them are!), they are full of 'Science versus Religion' threads, and virtually no-one wants to tread any 'middle ground'. I have the hardest time just trying to convince people that there are more than just 'science' or 'religion', to LIFE! Sometimes, I seem to piss people off, but all I do is state the obvious, or even just adopt a friendly approach, and something seems to trigger their 'panic buttons'! 'Unity' appears to be a foriegn word!
On the face of THAT, it would appear that getting people to think about, or understand 'metaphysics', is a key element in passing on the knowledge of WSM. This also invites the skeptics, and 'people who have other agendas', to undermine the whole concept, in whichever ways they see possible, so any thoughts need to be as 'water-tight' as they can be.
To combat the 'elitist' and 'overly intellectual' appearance, and get 'newcomers' interested, I could only suggest that it be represented in as 'entertaining' a way as possible. People WANT to be entertained!
From MY point of view, it looks fine! Great! In keeping with the rest of the site (which I think is Great, also!) Maybe just keeping 'metaphysics' on the agenda, is all that is needed?
Cosmos,
Steve. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Steve,
Your comments are very astute, and greatly appreciated. I think philosophy also has the same problems of metaphysics - people think it is elitist nonsense, when it is really about truth (which much nonsense has been written about!).
Anyway, Karene and I will be busy for another week on this, creating code so that it is easy to build links to our more important pages.
Next 2 months will be interesting to see how it goes!
Take care,
Geoff |
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