Knowledge/consciousness

[northjetty]

Hey Bill.

"The exponential factor is an oscillator of frequency w and wave number k. The sine function modulates the oscillator with a standing wave of wavelength 2pi/ k, the Compton wavelength of the electron. AMPo contains the numerical constants. The inward wave rotates phase at the center, reverses direction, and becomes the outward wave. The factor 1/r causes the wave amplitude to decrease inversely as the radius increases. At r -> 0, the amplitude of the separate waves is INFINITE. But when the two solutions are COMBINED the opposite signed infinities CANCEL and a FINITE standing wave results.

Figure 4. Electron Structure. The IN and OUT waves combine to form a standing wave. The amplitude of the continuous quantum waves is a scalar number, not an electromagnetic vector. At the high density center, the standing wave amplitude is FINITE, not INFINITE. At the center, the IN wave rotates 180 degrees converting it to an OUT wave. This fixed rotation creates the + or - quantum spin. It becomes an electron or positron, depending on the rotation direction."-Milo Wolff

This is the model for how the infinite and finite relationship works. This is a good place to start contemplating space going into itself. This should firm up what I think that you're suggesting Bill. Mainly, the aspect of 'two infinities' cancelling one another out to form a 'finite' standing wave. But to say that space is doing this by observing itself, could be going too far beyond the evidence. 'Waves in space' can cancel two infinities, and then it can appear to 'observe itself' as a 'finite sphere' that can 'differentiate location and acceleration within space'.

I haven't found anything that suggests that an 'observation' by space is involved with the coming together of 'two waves' moving in space. The two waves coming together seem to happen (a prior) to any observation made by the wave center, thus making mind/awareness/knowledge/consciousness an effect of 'matter', the finite and many things that we experience. The 'void' doesn't appear to be a 'mind' at all in this respect, the only detectable 'mind' is when spherical standing waves come into existence and can interact on one another. That's our job in this universe, we are the evolved 'mind' of it, as we are the evolved 'matter' (ssw centers) of it.

north jetty/the cosmos

[Bill Back]

Space does not do this by observing itself, but possibly by BEING itself.

Evolved mind, matter and spirit could have its origin of Space. It is not detectable by us or SSW centers. It is only known by itself. It might start evolving as waves of itself.

We are the evolvING mind, I am anxious to see what we are evolving into. We do not have a job other than what we make up for ourselves or what someone else wants us to do. Like Waylon Jennings sings ”I got my name on my shirt I don’t have to work”. The lilies of the field do not toil.

Most people agree that I go to far in my thinking but they respect my actions. I only try to expand our thinking out of the box, IMAGINE…. “To infinity and beyond” as Buzz Lightyear would say…..
“I’m not trying to mistreat you…All I really want to do-oo is baby be friends with you.” Sonny, Cher, & Bob D.

[northjetty]

We are Part of the Universe

"Although we can envision each particle 'separately' as a 'pair' of IN and OUT waves, that 'pair' cannot exist without the 'presence of all the other particles in the universe'. It has no meaning 'alone'. Every particle in the universe 'depends on all other particles' to create its IN wave. Thus in a very real sense, we humans are part of the universe and the universe is part of us. We are totally 'inter-dependent'.

Take a breath now! ..... This forced conclusion is awesome. We have to think of ourselves, our 'bodies', our 'brain' and its 'mind', as inextricably joined with other matter of the universe. Every atom and molecule within us depends on the rest of the universe. If the rest of the universe did not exist we could not exist.

At this point we have to take a hard look and ask ourselves, "Is this crazy? Is this just philosophical speculation? Just a science fantasy? Or is there a way to prove that the universe really behaves this way?" The answer is: "Yes, the evidence is clear." In fact, it is much clearer than the old physics. The evidence is seen in the origin of the natural laws that have never been understood before."-Milo Wolff

We've all been through these 'spiritual issues' several times over now, at least those of us speaking on this thread. I 'know' that you guys 'know' that there is only 'one thing existing' and you know that I know that there is but 'one thing existing'. We know that the 'one thing' has the properties of a 'continuous wave medium'. Here's some traditional religious terminology applied to the continuous wave medium.

"I have defined these words based on WSM".

"Spirit / Soul is our hidden connection to God".

"God is the 'one thing' that exists, infinite and eternal, that 'causes and connects the many things' we experience.

Thus God is 'Space' and its 'wave motions'.

Thus 'Spirit / Soul' is our (invisible) spherical in and out 'waves'.-Haselhurst


People are simply trying to 'investigate' what is 'possible' with this 'one continuous wave medium' that we are all made out of. For religious purposes I prefer to call space in motion, 'spirit', or the 'eternal spirit' as is consistent with the above definition by Geoff. If I ever use the words 'spirit', 'soul', 'God', 'existence' it's certainly 'eternal space in motion' that is being referred to with these words-the continuous wave medium.

Now this is different than the idea that a 'spirit' existing as 'separate from matter' as many world belief's have evolved into thinking over the years-this is like thinking in terms of point particles, or discrete separateness. Matter is of 'spirit', just as matter is of 'space'. The continuous wave medium 'vibrates with self energy' causing all of the finite forms that are 'made of the medium' such as ourselves. Space, as a self 'vibrating wave medium', has always existed so it must have a place in our evolving ideas of 'spirit/soul/God'. The medium is 'invisible' of course, just like the old concepts of the animating 'spirit/soul/God' of 'all things'. Space has a presence 'everywhere', 'all the time', as the traditional 'spirit/soul/God' ideas suggest as well.

I would suspect at this point that the 'old ideas' that came into the minds of our ancestors about there being a 'spirit/soul/God' to everything, or an eternity to everything, is the direct result of our being 'physically' composed of an 'eternal reaching wave medium' that is 'vibrating' with 'wave motion', and our deep thought processes have realized this in the past-certainly not in full, but in steps. It's taken time and evolution to 'break existence down' to the understanding of a 'continuous wave medium', but we have accomplished it now with solid physics/philosophy/metaphysics.

So the 'old terms' could easily been seen to have 'paved the way' towards an all-encompassing new understanding about true reality. The truth here is that the old terms can't actually exist as 'separate from matter', they are actually referring to what the 'matter' of existence is made out of-vibrational 'waves' of an infinite reaching 'wave medium'. It would seem that our true physical connection to 'eternity' is found in our invisible connection to the 'eternal wave medium'-our connection to the 'spirit' of existence.

"Hidden Connection".

Drop a rock, or consider the earth orbiting sun.
Things are clearly 'connected' - yet we 'do not see' the cause of these connections (we must imagine them).
WSM explains this with the spherical in and out waves which 'connect' the wave center particles to one another across universe. So these spherical in and out waves (which we do not see) are the 'hidden connections' between the 'matter particles that we do see'.-Haselhurst


ps-I'm going by 'space' from now on. The 'hidden connection' to all things.

north jetty/space