How ordinary waves reveal the basic nature of reality

[Eureka]

What waves tell us about the medium

First, a medium must be HELD before it can wave/vibrate. For example a guitar string must be held taut by a guitar body, a bell is held by its own rigidity and water is held by gravity. If we strike any of these they will wave because they are already held in some way. Let's test this idea.

Imagine calm water in a basin in a space capsule drifting in outer space. In relation to gravity, this water is NOT held. If disturbed, such water would not wave because there would be no gravity to pull back the rising water. Instead, it would drift with its momentum. In fact if such water were to wave (i.e., make reversals) that would violate a basic law of physics, the conservation (continuation) of momentum. So material tests plus the law of momentum confirm this wave rule.

Second, the examples show that the PRIMARY role of waves is to return a held medium to its basic held position…that of least energy. Hence the primary role of waves is to serve its medium (not us).

Third, the examples show that that the medium must be disturbed (have energy input) before it waves. For these clear reasons we conclude that waves are a SECONDARY form of energy.

Now space, when disturbed (e.g., by light) conducts waves. If the laws of physics are universal then space itself, BEFORE it could conduct waves (hence create particles), was/is in some way held. But how could space itself contain/be a holding energy?

(From a copyrighted concise cosmology titled…Source of “The Force”,
The Energy Model of Reality)

[Aireal]

Eureka

I have never heard of the cosmology titled... Source of "The Force", The energy Model of Reality, but it is clear they do do understand the basic physics behind wave mechanics. The example of water in space is all wrong. First the water is held by the basin or else it could not be contained in space at all. Any wave that moved the water would cause the water and wave energy to impact the wall of the basin, reflecting the wave energy back the way it came, returning the water particles to their starting position. Gravity is not involved, unless you are close to a massive object, and gravity is not needed to return the water particles to their starting position anyway.

First, the PRIMARY role of waves is NOT to return a medium back to its basic held position. Waves can not do this, that would be a violation of the basic law of conversation of momentum. Once a wave passes, having disturbed the medium, the wave moves on. It does not turn backwards and put everything like it was and then go back on its way of disturbing the medium. It must be a PIMARY PROPERTY of the MEDIUM to return to its own starting position after a wave has passed.

This is basic physics, proven time and again. So actually material tests and the law of conversation of momentum refute this supposed wave rule of which I have never heard of. If you have a link to this theory, I would be interested in it.

[nisarga]

Hi Eureka,

This is intriguing yet I feel that the premis is flawed.

There is the question of how the anchor points of the guitar string vibrate, the vibration of my ear drum, my auditory nerve and nerve endings...

And the question of water 'in a basin' in space is very challenging to explore as water 'in a basin' in Space behaves very differently than water 'in a basin' at the surface of the planet

- a quick search of 'water in space' and 'water experiments in Space' will show that many different considerations are necessary (like space has very little 'liquid' - liquids like water very quickly boil in the vacuum of space and the result is a gas or solid - even in the atmosphere of the space station water behaves very differently than it does on earth - many Space Shuttle experiments have been done on 'water in Space'.

here is one link - especially see Dr Pettit's comments and videos at the bottom... the water is 'held' by a wire instead of a basin...
http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/balloon/blob.htm


My understanding is that the Wave IS the Medium.

All Good Things,
James

[Eureka]

Appreciate your input...
From reading your reply, I think the problem is my failure to communicate clearly. I will respond asap...probably Thursday (these things require careful thought)...Eureka