"When forced to summarize the general theory of relativity in one sentence: Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter. ... Physical objects are not in space, but these objects are spatially extended ... thus the concept of particles cannot play a fundamental part, ... and can only appear as a limited region in space in which the field strength or energy density are particularly high."
(Albert Einstein, Metaphysics of Relativity, 1950)
"It is my firm belief that the last seven decades of the twentieth century will be characterized in history as the dark ages of theoretical physics. ... The quantum world is a world of waves, not particles."
(Carver Mead, Professor Emeritus at Caltech. Received $500,000 Lemelson-MIT Prize in 1999)
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:07 am Post subject: Hello. My name's Amos. |
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It's very nice to know that there are other humans out there who don't try to be something besides what they truly are -- human.
I am here because I want to share what I know and learn what others know in the process to hopefully end up with a higher knowledge than I previously had known possible.
Besides that, I seriously want to interact with others of like mind. I feel alone in a world full of people who don't have any idea what I'm talking about half of the time. They care about nothing besides their day to day lives and how they look to other people. It's not that I don't care about some of these things, it's more that I don't care how they make me become as a person when indulging on those ideas.
About me:
I am a philosopher at heart, but I won't label myself as such. I've studied eastern philosophy, particularly the martial art style of Ninjitsu (modified a bit) as a base to how I think of things.
I'm not actually Japanese, (I'm mostly Irish/Indian to be exact) but I think that there are key elements in the teaching of martial arts way that are highly overlooked. One particular element is balance.
As far as religion goes, if I were of any religious nature, I probably wouldn't be here - haha! - but I do think that there is an intelligent power beyond our own at work in the universe. Wait! Don't attack me yet! I can explain!! Really! ;)
Seriously though. I am a man of Science, but equally a man of Philosophy. I'm only 21 years old at the moment, but I am extremely wise for my age. I want to know how everything in this universe works and I want to share that knowledge with anyone who's willing to listen.
As I was saying before, I believe in balance. It's a force not many scientists recognize even when they see it everyday. I beleive this "balance" is the equivalent of "God" and everything else in this universe.
I don't want you to think that I have no scientific proof of this, so I am willing to elaborate. However, I'm not math-minded. I'm just open-minded. I can provide the concepts, it's up to you to form it into an equasion or not.
I have a child-like curiosity in all things. I have had it since I was a child. I want to know what everything is and how it works inside and out. I'm always asking questions. There's just too much to study out there to focus on one thing to me. That is why I can't label myself a Philosopher. I'm equally an Artist as well as a Scientist. Math too, I want to learn one day but it isn't on my list of priorities at the moment because there's still too much more interesting things to me right this moment. Hehe!
Anyhow, I beleive there are two sides to everything in this universe. Even the universe itself. However, I also beleive that there is a certain neutral ground that can allow something to go either way.
Think of this as a person's sexuality. Some people are straight, some are not, and some are a little of both. It's all a state of mind. The thing is, there are still two sides, and a neutral ground. Kind of like Science and Philosophy. They are two radically different mindsets and for those of us that can meld them together, we are truly talented. This is because we have an unstable amount of one or the other at any given moment. For me, the science is dominating lately, but I know the philosophy will overpower the philosophy very soon. It's an eternal struggle for as long as one tries to balance chaos and innocence to knowledge and order.
I would go into this further, however I'm not certain if you're finding any of this even slightly interesting. I am sure though, if you come to an understanding of what I'm trying to say, you won't be so quick to judge it as "wrong".
I beleive stupidity only exists when ignorance is no longer possible.
If anyone wants a new view on everything in the universe, I can provide you with one if you choose to accept it. I've made a blog that pretty much gives a general Please feel free to critisize to your heart's content. I can only learn from my mistakes when they are visible to me.
I've come up with a theory and philosophy that supports your theory, Geoff. I just stumbled upon your site today and I must say that it does me and you both justice if you would consider its importance. Maybe you're my chance to get it out into the world.
This blog is the ever evolving knowledge I've gained to this point. I just hope to evolve it into a point where people can understand and use it before I die. My daughter is only 10 months old at this time, but I want her to know these things and her children and their children too. These are the things that make us human, and make us one with the universe:
http://thethoughtsofgod.blogspot.com/
I am a very nature-oriented person. I beleive that nature is chaotic and unpredictable sometimes, I also beleive that order must always end in chaos. My life is a living example of that - but we can leave that for another day.
I know love and beauty. These two things are invaluable keys to being human and fathoming nature's greatest mysteries. I also know how to listen to my soul and communicate through it to others. Emotion is the key to chaos and creativity. Numbness is the key to order and destruction. This is what I know deep down inside.
I love people who are mean to me, but obviously I don't like them. I feel sad that they aren't smart enough to realize that hatred and mal-intent only bring them more unhappiness in the end. The love I feel for them is on a universal level. This love though is more along the lines of their potential as a human and to this world. Whether this potential is used or not depends on the person. However, for the ones that don't see what I can see so clearly I feel so sorry for them. It's a sorrowful love. Something along the lines of losing something of great sentimental value to you that you know you can never get back.
Funny thing is, this kind of reminds me of the way Christians describe Jesus's care for other people. However, since I was raised on the bible-belt in the US, I don't have much use for the Christian religion - especially the fact that it suggests women to be lesser than men, or animals to be less than humans. But that's just my impression of the roots of the religion. Some of the moral philosophy is at least tolerable.. too bad most churches here are bigger on advertising than most corporate businesses.
I guess I can equate these emotions of empathy and coldness to the ideal state of mind for a human being who is in tune with everything around him /her in the universe. This is the ultimate balanced mind. One who knows that one side is not better than the other - only a different viewpoint.
Ever heard the saying "Give a man a fish and feed him for a day, Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime"? It's back to balance again. It's very good to help the man get food. However if this involves dependence upon you and not himself it is bad for both of you. But if he depends on himself, it is good for both of you.
It's all relative to the context of helping yourself or him. If you help yourself, you give him the fish you already caught - it's easier for you since you can just catch another one, but he might starve if you weren't around. However, if you empathize with him and think beyond yourself, you'll know that if you help him LEARN to fish he would be better off in the longrun with or without you.
The universe is very simple, but it appears more complex to the life within it by the infinite possibilities at any given moment. However, at the very end of that moment, there is only one possibility left -- the future -- the very product of our past. When both are combined, the present is formed. But the present is only relative to the past and future and the present is already past the instant it was the present. So, in essence we are living both in the past and the future simutaneously which when combined create the present.
Haha! It's a bit to take in due to it's conflicting nature, but the universe is built upon equal but opposite forces. Male and Female for example. One's body gives, and the other receives. Eventually the receiver gives -- that is, the new life which could potentially be a giver or a receiver. The X and Y chromosomes are physical evidence of the "Rule of Balance" at work in the universe and even inside our bodies.
This rule applies to absolutely everything in the universe because as stated in my Blog, everything comes from the non-possibility of nothing, thus negating nothing to become something and therefore creating the first "something" out of absolute nothingness. Did that go over your head? XD Don't worry - it takes a bit of getting used to it. It was crazy enough when I first realized it. It is the initial spark of "possibility" that created this physical universe, but also the simutaneous existance of "impossibility" that made the two realms of the universe in my theory.
There is a physical realm - this universe in which we know and can touch and measure where things are limited to only what exists at this moment - and a data realm - a place where there is no location or measurements only the sum of all things past, present, and future combined into one. This is the realm of God or Death and Rebirth. However, the physical realm is the realm of Life. There is also a Neutral to these two opposites, but I will get into this all later. It's not in my Blog yet.
I will explain more if anyone is willing to listen. I'd really like to get some feedback on how crazy this sounds to another human being... If I keep going, I might spend all night typing... Please let me know what anyone here thinks. I would really appreciate it. ^_^
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Steve Anthony

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Hi Amos,
I believe we are living in an era when Consciousness becomes self-aware of its Infinite properties.
You have some good thoughts for a 21 year old (I would have been down the pub, at your age!), but that kind of relates to the fact that we are experiencing some 'greater' changes now. Indeed, BIGGER thoughts are occurring more regularly, and that is due in no small measure to the likes of Geoff Haselhurst and Dr. Milo Wolff, and the many other wonderful people who understand the importance of Truth.
Their theories on the WSM are, in my opinion, an HONEST (and quite brilliant!) attempt to unveil this 'Truth', which necessarily needs to stick to 'the facts', as rigidly as it can.
I don't think you are at all far away from a greater understanding of 'how it works', and believe you WILL find what you need to, to achieve this, by reading further on this site. (For me, the greatest 'Understanding' is that we are part of everything else, and that 'separation' is the illusion we have created for ourselves, probably just to 'survive' our evolutionary journey so far.)
It all starts with Honesty, in my opinion. Nothing is more motivating to the Human mind that seeks Truth. (Honesty and Truth have to be the same thing, don't they?)
I am currently reading up on the science, because that is my 'weak link' in the understanding.
Recognising these 'weak links' in ourselves is what gives us the Honest foundations to build TRUTH on.
I'll have to leave the appropriate links to Geoff, but I would say Please keep following the links around this site, as it is crammed full of 'gems' on every page!... You WON'T be disappointed, if it's Honest Truth you seek!
(P.S. I love to speculate on all sorts of things, like Mayan calendar, Dolphins, 'Balance', etc, but not sure this is the appropriate place. However, other forums are great places to test our 'theories', and also post back links to this site, for those of a more 'scientific'/'philosophical' Nature!)
I hope this helps!
Steve. |
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your feedback.
I do however want to state that my "knowledge" doesn't come largely from other people's work. It's simply intuition. None of my ideas were sparked from anything but my observations of the world around me. I will never take anyone else's ideas or even my own as being the end-all. The thing is, if one always allow for error then one will never be completely wrong. I only study others' thoughts because maybe it will "connect" with what I already know.
The thing about rigidly sticking to the "truth" is, we are all human and it is very hard to deduce what is actually undeniably the "truth". We view this universe day to day as being finite, and yet all everyone who has any intuition at all is continuously saying that it simply cannot be finite! So, I choose to instead follow the evolving ideas spawned from The Rule of Balance which simply cannot be denied.
If you think on a smaller, more natural level -- take an ecosystem for example -- you quickly find that this rule applies to everything -- even evolution!
A small fish in a small pond feeds off the algae and a larger fish feeds on plants and the smaller fish. Let's say you favor the larger fish so artificially insert more larger fish into the pond, there are eventually no more smaller fish or plants left for them to and they will eventually starve to death. Now let's say you favor the larger fish and introduce a few more plants to make up for this so at least the fish will have plants left to eat. Eventually the plants take over and cause the fish to be trapped and die or the entire surface is now covered in algae where there is no more light thus killing the plants off, too. Now let's say we favor the sunlight and we add more smaller fish who can eat the algae at a higher rate, at this point the environment is doomed because the smaller fish eat at a slightly slower rate than the larger fish and ultimately die off killing everything in the ecosystem due to no light. "God" cannot favor one element over another no matter how big or small. This is the essence of order becoming chaos. This is the idea of Balance.
The funny thing is, if the environment was left as it was, nature would take its course, and the ecosystem would thrive as a small "planet" such as Earth did from pure "possibility". The nature of the universe I beleive is a "possible" one. It has no limitations until someone or something beleives there is a limitation. For example, the larger fish were considered more "important" in the ecosystem, therefore everything else, such as the lack of food, was considered a limitation to its progress and were considered less important and not equal. Thus causing the ultimate chaos and destruction of all elements not living in harmony with one another. However, the dirt and water remained. Life could still exist here, but only if nature is allowed to take its course.
I appreciate your complements, too. I have been reading up on Geoff and Milo's work and so far, I'm only to page 18 of 54 and have a pretty solid understanding of the principles involved in the WSM theory. Funny thing is I have already come up with a similar physics model of the universe which ignores the idea of particles and is ruled by spheres of emanating "force" which describe matter. Though probably not exactly in detail of the WSM theory, but it's still in development for me. It's only a part of a larger more philosiphical theory of how to live your life the way the universe wants you to. This I hope will help others become better people in the end and learn to live in harmony with the nature of themselves and other people the way they should.
To me, Science is cold without Philosophy and Philosophy is blind comfort withouth Science. Too much of ANY one thing will always cause everything to end up bad. This is my experience.
I beleive Geoff and Wolff's science is pretty spot on, and even their philosophy is up to par. The thing is, I also beleive that in order to get the most out of our understanding of the universe we must include information about everything that exists in it.
That is, the WSM theory doesn't quite involve many factors of the universe such as the "soul" or emotions, balance or unbalance, living creatures and how they relate to this basic principle, or conciousness and what it actually is in relation to time and movement. However, like I said -- I'm only on page 18 out of 54 of the WSM. Once I read the whole thing then I can make accurate critiques. But if this isn't explained somewhere I would like to know more. I do see however that there are some slight differences to my idea of the universe in regard to the finite but infinite universe and the WSM's idea.
Most importantly -- it doesn't take into account the possibility of "scale" or in other words, the compression of matter. That is, if the atoms in an object the size of an airplane were compressed closer together to reduce it to say -- the size of a marble -- and this plane was placed on a table the shape would still be exactly the same, however if you tried to thump it off of the table it would hurt your fingers and wouldn't budge. The table also couldn't support it's weight and collapse. It still retains it's shape, but not its size.
If I'm missing something, please let me know. I will continue to read on this WSM theory and hope there is something about such things. Also, I hope someone could give me some critique on my ideas as well. I love when my ideas are challenged because it makes me think of them in a different way and hopefully allow me to be able to change them into something more solid and less abstract.
Also, if anyone is wondering I just started this blog a few weeks ago. I don't have anything concrete written down as my ideas are always changing. However, I thought about keeping a voice log of my discoveries since that would be much easier than typing everytime something large changes.
I admit my understanding of some common terms like "redshift" I've heard before but don't fully understand so any clarification would be wonderful. I just recently realized it was Cosmology that I have been studying all my life and not Quantum Physics or Astrobiology and whatnot. However, I am looking forward to learning everything that we as a whole know about the universe.
It is also nice to hear conflicting ideas challenging mainstream science and cosmology as does this WSM theory. I beleive that philosophy can break the barriers that science cannot. One of the funniest things I've read recently was something along the lines of: "It is rather embarassing that scientists do not yet know anything at all about the universe."
Also, what are your ideas about "Magick". It seems to be a prevalent thing in cultures that realize the power of balance. People swear by it. Also on top of that, when explained by someone knowledgeable it sounds eerily similar to a very low-level science. It all has to do with conciousness. And as we are all one in the universe, we must be able to tap into each other's conciousness and the conciousness of the universe as a whole. Thus "The Thoughts of God" that Einstein spoke of.
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you're a young and modest one I take it: "I'm only 21 years old at the moment, but I am extremely wise for my age." ))
You write very prolifically Amos, and I greatly empathize with your child like curiosity for everything in the world and the importance and significance of balance. I also want to talk with someone who can accept day to day dependencies and such but who will naturally go beyond them with a passion unmatched. but after years gone by, I realized that some places require focus on certain things before these huge wild theories about consciousness and spirituality, and science come together. I had to stop writing my book so as to better investigate the science behind it (energy transfers between humans, auras, ZPE whatever) and that's why I'm hear. To focus on WSM.
And with all the people Haselhurst is going to be getting through here, I think he would appreciate if we keep the WSM forum on well, WSM and how it may apply to consciousness and mind and all that (which I am still extremely interested in don't worry!). But I'm strapped for time and can only read so much! It's the information age! Keep things focused, concise. wow . . .not like this post. ha. Hope to talk to you soon Amos. Email ne some time.
Mark
p.s: your theories on impossibility require more reading from me, but great thinkers like Quine and Descartes have thought of this stuff before . . .and the abstracness of it is something no one can clearly seem to get around. |
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Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 728 Location: Planet Earth, Milky Way, Universe, Infinite Space. Status: Endangered Species. Cause: Ignorance
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Hi all,
I just wanted to thank Steve and Mark for your comments to Amos.
I agree, and really respect your good grace, kindness and wisdom.
To Amos, balance also includes considering not just your own ideas, but those who came before us.
Most of what you think will have been considered by others, certainly balance, i.e. Yin Yang Philosophy / Tao / Harmony of Opposites has been around for several thousand years.
And the dynamic unity of reality (which founds WSM) has also been known since the ancients (found in ancient Greek, Indian and Chinese Philosophy / Metaphysics). I have even read where Buddha suggested that all things were vibrations.
I am going to be flat out (like a lizard drinking!) for several weeks as we are employing 2 people to help work on website and promotion, and I need to get their work organised.
So if i am slow in replying here, please try to be patient with me.
I really appreciate your time and thoughts.
Cosmos,
Geoff
"Employ your time in improving yourself by other people's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others have laboured hard for." (Socrates)
http://www.cafepress.com/philosophy_shop/922974 (Philosophy of Education)
PS - Yes! In general, short concise carefully thought out posts (based on careful reading of relevant knowledge) are obviously best.
"If I had more time this (essay) would have been shorter." (Pascal)
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." (da Vinci)
"Philosophy should be simple and plain." (Montaigne quoting Seneca) |
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