Closing Forum for Six Months

[haselhurst]

Hello everyone,

I am sad to say that I am going to close this forum for the next 6 months.

I will do this in another week so people have time to discuss this and sort anything out as required.

I hoped that the forum would develop into a small group of people that would help with the development and promotion of the wave structure of matter.

Instead it seems to drift, consume too much of my time, and I get very little help back.

I have made kind friends here - so this failure to achieve much is very depressing to me.
And to see people argue is demoralising.

I hope that you will each carry on with your thoughts on the WSM - such that in 6 months we can get together again and carry on.

I realise this is abrupt - but the last two weeks have been terrible for forum with all its problems of software (and now our server / host has been having problems - when it rains it pours!)

My best to all - but for a while now I am hiding away and getting on with real work to get this knowledge carefully written up and known to the world.

Cosmos,
Geoff

PS - I have discussed this by phone with Rob. If anyone else wants to talk then contact me through my MSN messenger.
My MSN name is: geoff_haselhurst at hotmail.com
I will be online most mornings (West Australia time).

[nisarga]

Hey Geoff,

The only thing you can control is your behaviour.

Blessed Be,
James

[Bishadi]

Geoff,

you and your lady friend are who I came to talk with.

Don't be sad. Your site and not the forum is what brought me here.

Please contact me via email. First at last .com.

Keep the drive alive. War is coming and the island needs compassion on the front. Don't let me down.

Peace

[northjetty]

Sounds good Geoff. It's going to take a lot to get the WSM understanding out to the larger audience. It will certainly have to get to the point of being spoken of on television programs, movies, books, documentary dvd's. As you've said in the past, this could take years and years-which is likely. Nevertheless, it's a solid understanding, it will find it's way to popularity eventually. The Internet could well lead to the books, movie's, television, and hopefully to becoming the standard model cosmology in the future.

Now is the forum going to locked, so no new post's can enter into it, or is it going to be out of visibility altogether? Will we have no access at all to the existing posts on the forum for six months to copy and paste elsewhere? There's much to copy and paste from the forum and spread around on the Internet, even if the forum is inactive. I'm just wondering how you're going to go about shutting the forum down?

north jetty/space

[Bill Back]

Dear Geoff,

I wrote this last week and post it now:

We always have problems with computers. Technology seems to help us in a lot of ways but, it also seems to hinder our harmonious existence, our natural flow, our peace of mind. If problems continue to make life difficult and irritating, maybe it is time to put the forum on a vacation and edit the existing work to Space and motion site? There seems to be too much information here, so most people are overwhelmed and do not have time to read….I would be happy to communicate with you all via email if you wish. Thank you for your efforts it has been fun and has helped clear some of my thoughts:

I am
William Back
Metaphyartist and Teacher

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[haselhurst]

Hi All,
Thanks for your comments.

NJ - I was definitely hoping just to lock forum so no one can post - but it would be online so people can read / copy content (and I will keep slowly building links to good posts - and working on completed articles section - so forum improves and Google sees it!)
And I hope that you will soon complete writing up your articles on religious myth and metaphor (so important to a world dominated by religious myth). And that you will allow me to put them prominently in our theology section (which does very well - we actually come up #1 in Google for 'catholic religion', top ten for quite a few of the common searches relating to various world religions).

Bill - You have so much talent and knowledge summarised in your post - use it to help WSM / Humanity.
Surely auto cad can create decent wave diagrams - we so desperately need them and I have tried for two years to get people to help with little success.
And create a clown act that makes us laugh at our silly beliefs, makes us sad at the harm they do, makes us realise that truth and reality are really very simple and sensible if we just open our mind to the dynamic unity of all things.

James. You bring a different language and view to this forum that is a little difficult for me as a philosopher of science.
But I also realise that you speak a more common language of the people - that this is a good thing.
I hope that you will continue to develop your knowledge of WSM and apply it to 'Akasa Prana Yoga'. WSM is clearly the correct way to imagine / understand our unity and connection to all things in the space around us. And I do find it useful to relax by imagining my body as an illusion, imagining the waves that form my body extending out into space - extending to infinity.
And then it is easy to imagine calming these waves - like a troubled choppy ocean that becomes calm with just these smooth waves flowing through.

Bishadi - I hope to get to know you better when the forum resumes (hopefully near end of year). Please keep reading and thinking about the WSM. This is important to our world - it is important that we know it well, can explain it well (to ourselves and thus others).

I have things to add for other admins / users - i will write more later.
Geoff

[northjetty]

Geoff, I'm as intent on trying to save the world from religious and mythic confusion as you are on trying to save it from post-modern point particle confusion and certain destruction. I'm too far into all of this to stop writing. I was struggling to make the proper connections when I came across the WSM cosmology. I was using the 'wrong science' like everyone else is doing these days-string theory, big bang etc. Campbell himself was limited by the paradoxical science of his era. The WSM flows, it pertains to everything, and it's evolutionary perspective opens up a whole new avenue for understanding the old myths-which is exactly what we should expect from gaining a true foundational knowledge of reality. I'm working on a page right now, I'll put it up in the completed articles section with the others. Hopefully I can get these things put together well enough for visibility in the theology section-you can edit as required if I've gone too far with my hypothesis. (lol)

north jetty/space

[haselhurst]

I obviously agree that WSM is important - clearly it is useful for explaining numerous problems of knowledge / myths.
The strange thing to me is why so few people see this.
I know the mind takes time to adjust to new knowledge - but this is very obvious, simple and sensible.
This failure disturbs me as it is also a failure to save humanity from its insanity, a myth based insanity that is destroying life on earth.

Anyway, I am very pleased that you are taking your work seriously as it deserves. You have a good mind for it - the work will be important one day.

My advice - take the extra time to try and re-write everything as simply, to the point, as you can. To carefully use the least number of words to explain the most things in a coherent / human friendly manner.

I am trying - it takes time!
Good luck NJ - thanks for your contributions here - bloody fantastic!

Geoff

[Aireal]

Geoff

You are the one that must do what you think best for the forum and the advancement of W.S.M. theory.

My daughter will be out of school for 3 months in just two weeks. So I will not get much time on the computer for the next few months any way.

I will continue my research till the forum resumes in my spare time. I am currently looking at MAP and the insights it give into the event where an electron is captured by a proton and converted into a neutron. Feel free to edit any of my posts, I know how long winded I can be.

I wish I could have spent more time on the forum, as I have not spoken with everyone as much as I would have liked. As the old saying goes, I have too many irons in the fire.

In the interim, you can reach me here. Unless AT&T changes the address in the near future. They recently bought Bell South.

Charles
laster3@bellsouth.net

[nisarga]

Hi Geoff,

A point of clarification about 'illusion'...

[Rob Peritz]

Hello All,
It has been my pleasure to have been a small part of this discussion. The things we have discussed here need to be discussed everywhere. I personally think that we few have made progress, although, at times we have rambled from the subject, still, presenting the WSM and the DUR to humanity is a noble cause, in deed, as well as in spirit. Keep up the good work my friends.

[haselhurst]

Hi Everyone,
With considerable sadness I will be locking the forum tomorrow.

I have made kind friends here - so I look forward to us resuming things in 6 months when the spaceandmotion site is finished.

Take care all.

Cosmic closure (for now)
Geoff

[StupFly]

Hi,

Oh-bla-de, oh-bla-da life goes on, lala, lalalala life goes on.

If WSM is the true knowledge to be realized throughout humanity then this happening is a positive as it is just a progression towards a bigger audience..

Although, it does seem like a pity to break the connection of thoughts between the people here, but still, a good knowledge and understanding has been passed on and between the right kind of people, all different kinds of people..

We have contributed our thoughts, understanding and time here, which is seemingly everything we can do to ultimately achieve the dream that we all pursue, of true inner knowing, true experience of self and the reality we are a part of together.

Hope everyone keeps on the right wave.. Im going to india on Sunday, im quite mudduled up in my thoughts as i dont really have very much money and i dont have a plan or a ticket back. I just hope natures path for me is of life and not death! Life.

Thanks all, goodbye..

[haselhurst]

I am locking the forum now.
Will be re-opened in about 6 months when work at www.spaceandmotion.com is finished.
Thank you all for your time and contributions, your kind friendship.
Take care.
Geoff