Absolute Truth

[Bill Back]

Absolute truth is the one thing, we all share. Each of us is a center of the same infinite mind/body. Our point of view can be expanded to include other points of view or all points of view.

[northjetty]

Hi bill, how are you? The wsm is based on the absolute reality of existing space. There lies the truth of truths. Now, everything that exist's, exist's as that one fundamental truth to reality, through the wsm. So now, say someone says " The earth is 6 thousand years old, and everything here was created in 6 literal days, and this is truth!" We can find the fossil evidence that says otherwise, and show that truth, as untrue. But as we are space, space was false, in trying to describe itself, through it's properties, namely us. We then have to keep looking for truth, and so too, space is seeking it's own self realization, through it's properties as a thinking being. So, not all truth is truth, and self deception is a property of space. Does this relate to your statement?


northjetty/the cosmos

[haselhurst]

Care to explain how this relates to the wave structure of matter in space (the source of absolute truth)?
Otherwise I will delete the post (will wait a few days)
Cheers,
Geoff

PS - Seems I posted at same time as you NJ. And I think that you should not waste too much of your time with such posts unless they show some relevance to WSM.

[Bill Back]

Is the 3d space created in a AutoCAD program (cyberspace) the same as real space?

I know this to be true, because there is only one thing.

Let me add additional coments on absolute truth:

Absolute truth is the one thing, we all share. Each of us is a center of the same infinite mind/body. Our point of view can be expanded to include other points of view or all points of view.

Can you expand your point of view to include other points of view?

All of us will see all points of view someday... This is the truth that sets us free!

We all share one mind and one body. Body and mind are the same thing.

We all share the one infinite body. Take a deep breath. The air is all around the world in us and part of us. THE LIGHT THAT ENTERS OUR EYES IS REFLECTED ACROSS THE UNIVERSE. Each of us is a center of the infinite body.
We know the truth, one can think something else. but deep inside we know the truth. There is no need to understand. We know, but it is covered by what we have been told.

Absolute truth....

[northjetty]

Bill, that sounds pretty logical from the wsm model to me. I hope that you are enjoying the site, it sounds like you get the drift about being just a fragment of eternity. That's the absolute truth that is being described here. All of these wave centers, forming the reality we experience. The connecting link to all of existence.

northjetty/the cosmos

[nigel]

Hi Bill

I have to respond to your assertions re: absolute truth. You will find on this website a metaphysics known as the Dynamic Unity of Reality (DUR). This metaphysics provides a valuable ground on which to encounter absolute truth. There is nothing but scorn for metaphysics in the wider physics community. There are many negative issues that flow on from this and impact on the wider society in a very negative way. The core of the problem is how we handle subjectivity as a species.
Since the Copenhagen interpretation [1], physics has been on a long slide down into subjectivity, that is the implications of the Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle [2] which implies that we cant measure the properties of an entity that establishment physicists like to call a sub atomic particle, that is to be precise we must rely on a statistical measure [3]. This lack of precision has huge ramifications for society. It allows social sciences and unfortunately the majority of modern philosophers to deny the existence of the world. That is we cant directly experience the world, we cant prove it exists, we have to take everything on faith, that is our experience of reality is subjective, language is subjective, meaning is subjective and finally the ultimate betrayal, Truth is subjective. Hence Postmodernism [4].
The metaphysic (DUR) strongly contradicts the subjective Post-modern worldview, it states clearly that the world exists, we can measure it precisely, we can experience it directly, and in fact any physical model for this reality will be based on simple logic and directly observable parameters. DUR implies that Relativity and String theory are out. Relativity while a beautiful and mathematically rich theory incorrectly utilise a 4th dimension of time. We cant directly experience this dimension so it is out, it is not there, it is not Real, and in fact nearly 100 years after Einstein Relativity is still an incomplete theory with no analytical solution for its basic equations. String theory relies on many higher dimensions, which we can’t experience so it is gone to. No theory of physics will ever be complete if it relies on subjective parameters that can’t be measured or experienced.
So I hold there is one source of absolute truth and that is a reality that I can directly experience. I hold there is one objective physics, that measures space directly and precisely, its model is based on the directly observable parameters of space, as Haselhurst puts it “the one thing that exists”

Kindest Regards Nigel

Notes
[1] http://www.spaceandmotion.com/quantum-physics-niels-bohr-quotes.htm
[2] http://www.spaceandmotion.com/physics-quantum-mechanics-werner-heisenberg.htm
[3] Dammed lies and Statistics.
[4] http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Philosophy-Postmodernism-Post-Modernism.htm

[Bill Back]

0/0=1

This site is just what i have been thinking.

thank you,
Bill Back

[northjetty]

Nigel, that was one awesome lesson in the art of interconnectivity. Bravo, that was enlightening! That simplified the understanding of the wsm through the form of a strait forward physics perspective. That's the one that is the most important in my view.

northjetty/the cosmos

[Bill Back]

Look at it this way: 0/0=1...... As Nothing [space] goes into Itself, It becomes the Infinite One.

The universe aware of itself makes the waves. Seeing this we can ride the waves or get tossed around. We can work with nature's laws or be worked by nature. This is important for the average Joe to know!

[Steve Anthony]

Hi,

Agreed with Northjetty. Nigel's wonderfully concise explanation works for me, also.

Seems to be the same perception of 'either/or' (dualism), which must be transcended to reach the conclusion of a Dynamic Unity...

[Rob Peritz]

Well said nigel,

[haselhurst]

I am just stunned by the hi level of awareness / intelligence of you guys. What remarkable replies.
Will add more later - just had to reply now to tell you how impressed I was.

"Keep it clean and simple everyone and the truth will rise to the top."

This should become our working slogan...

Geoff

[Bill Back]

To get WSM accepted by the general puplic, it needs to be demonstrated , documented, and then promoted on TV and the internet as a news release.

I suggest teaming up with an experienced metaphysician to demonstrate and a journalist to do the rest.

Also limit forum replies to 200 words

[haselhurst]

I pretty much agree.
We are getting there by having pages in top 20 in Google for many academic search terms. e.g.

theory of relativity - 18
Einstein's relativity - 10
quantum physics - 16
quantum theory - 18
cosmology - 50
big bang theory - 15
theory of evolution - 20
philosophy - 100

There are hundreds more. The site gets around 45,000 page views each day - about half to our 300 philosophy physics pages and half to our 50 sexuality pages (which will be substantially increased as Karene adds her 300 sexuality pages built over past two months).

What I need is help in improving quality of work on spaceandmotion website, making it cleaner / more simple.
And getting help from others to add links to these pages.

I agree, once the content is better, that marketing / news release is good (have plans for this - and enough money to do it reasonably - as our philosophy shop earns about $60,000 a year which will be used for Google ads and marketing / PR.)

This forum is a way to get others to help.
Are you interested in helping?
Cheers,
Geoff

[Bill Back]

I could help with space and motion. I have used Autocad for 20 years and have a great interest in space, mind/space. Here is some of my background:


Artist/teacher William Back Bloopotheclown@yahoo.com

Workshops and Individual Instruction

1. Drawing with the Whole Mind
Learn to use not only the right/left brain and senses, but the Whole Mind when putting pencil to paper.

2. Painting with the Whole Mind
Continue by adding color to drawings and painting in your medium.

3. Forming Ideas in Clay
Hand forming clay can bring to the surface ideas that are not words or pictures but 3-D matter.

4. Drafting and the Art of AUTOcad
Learn to draft, design and visulize from many points of view using AUTOcad.

5. American Landscapes
Study the native and man made landscapes from California to Maine.

6. Universal Gardening
Following the laws of nature can make any garden a paradise that is eaiser to maintain.

7. The Art of Good Health
Your mother, kids, doctor, insurance co. and others can help but you are responsible for your health.

8. Humor. the Art of Being Human
This class intends to make everyone smile and laugh more, presented by Bloopo the Clown.

9. The Art of Mind
Everyone is an artist creating a life, learning to think is learning to live.


William Back bloopotheclown@yahoo.com

Work Experience:


Computer Drafting Instructor using AutoCAD and Architectural Desktop at Camarillo High School, Ventura County Schools.

Teacher, Earth Science and Art at Brighton Acadamey.

Civil Engineering Computer Draftsman at Kennedy & Jenks Engineers in Ventura.

Land Planner/Pemit Expediter for Northfork Springs Construction and Developers.

Landscape Contractor, Designer and Nursery Manager CA St.Lic. #411070.

Video Editor/Office Manager for National Television News.

Construction Supervisor for Astrodesigns in Los Angeles.

Landscape Supervisor for Almar Marinas in Ventura and Oxnard.

Building Tech. at The Santa Barbara Museum of Art.

Waterfall and Pond Builder for Santa Barbara Koi.

Traveling Artist, Painter and Pottery Studio Manager.


Education:

Ventura College, Information Systems and AutoCAD.

Cal Poly, SanLuis Obispo, Natural Resources Management.

[haselhurst]

HI Bill,
Very impressive list of achievements.

We really do need help with wave diagrams.
There is a section in this forum on them.
http://www.physics-philosophy-metaphysics.com/forum/physics-wave-diagrams-vf18.html

And at my website.
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/science-physics-wsm-wave-diagrams.htm

It seems though that you have many talents that would be useful - hope you will apply them over time to help us (humanity)!
Geoff

[Bill Back]

Space is Motion....Space is always moving.

Pick up a glass of water. See the waves!
Space moved.(from the waters point of view)

In autocad one can move space relitive to any coordinates.

Nothing moves but mind. Space is mind...

In Joy We Sing!

[haselhurst]

Hmmm.

"Space is Mind".

It is necessary that mind is formed from waves in space.
Given that mind is only a recent evolution, and exhibits traits of our physical evolution here on earth. e.g. We sleep (due to earths rotation as it orbits sun) we orgasm (to reproduce), we get hungry (need matter / energy to survive).

Thus physical reality (waves in space) must have existed prior to our evolution (to cause our evolution), thus prior to mind.

Geoff

[northjetty]

Thus spacewaves create mind, that realizes that it is spacewaves, that create the mind. So now, the spacewaves know that they exist. In post modernism, I believe that spacewaves were under the impression that they didn't exist. But they do exist, So through the wsm dynamic unity of reality, the spacewaves are now AWARE of themselves through our contemplation. So our mind does play a pivotal roll, but it does not invent matter. Matter creates mind to behold itself. The mind is matter, that invented that it WASN'T MATTER, through the post modern world view of subjectivity. It's like a monkey f%#cking a football from the wsm perspective! I really enjoy seeing works like the "self aware universe" finally come to light. It makes no logical sense whatsoever to me that we are creating matter with our own mind. We see that we did not exist, yet there was an extensive existence prehistory. It was without us here yet to make it exist. It has left it's fossil records littered around this planet. We weren't here yet to think all of this up. That never made any sense to me whatsoever.

The minimum here now for me is this, We do exist, matter was here before matter evolved into the human being. But further back matter was here before any animals, thus matter as spacewaves, is the oldest thing. It's perpetual so the evolution goes from matter to mind, to realize matter, to go on? We are at the going on now question mark. So this is why the wsm is important knowledge to the very universe itself. The breaking of the post modern world view has given the very universe a breakthrough in self contemplation and awareness. It can now definitively know, through the human being, that it does indeed exist! Have I gone too far with this evaluation ?

northjetty/the cosmos

[haselhurst]

Perfectly stated NJ.
This seems obvious to me too (that reality comes first, mind is a product of human evolution of life on earth).
Yet I constantly read people claiming all is mind.
It does depress me - how humans reason so poorly, think so emotionally.
And it is destroying the planet.
So thanks for being sensible and logical!!
Geoff


In my opinion, the greatest scandal of philosophy is that, while all around us the world of nature perishes - and not the world of nature alone - philosophers continue to talk, sometimes cleverly and sometimes not, about the question of whether this world exists. They get involved in scholasticism, in linguistic puzzles such as, for example, whether or not there are differences between 'being' and 'existing'. (Popper, 1975)

Denying realism amounts to megalomania (the most widespread occupational disease of the professional philosopher). (Popper, 1975)

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Philosophy-Karl-Popper.htm

[Bill Back]

are we having fun yet?

Metaphysicians say it is all mind, surfers say it is all waves, some say it is all god&good, some say its all sex, drugs and rock&roll, some say it is all love&law.
I say it is all the same thing,(UNITY) but words can not exactly describe it. So I will continue work on a picture/wave diagram to help explain it. (likley a 3D holograph)...

nj, I was in ft.pierce last year helping friends dig out thier beach house after the hurrycane.

Gday to you all and to all a Gnight

[northjetty]

Bill, then I would assume that you are aware of the northjetty of Ft.Pierce inlet, of which my name is a reference. I think that it is so fitting that after all of these years, I've found that spacewaves are the foundational substance that is common to all. That's just too fitting isn't it?

So, now that we have some perspective, I can say this of matter

Matter creates out waves that become in waves that form other matter,

thus matter produces matter,

So matter produces the mind, and the mind is matter

thus mind produces matter, as inwaves, even when matter produces mind



northjetty/the cosmos

[Bill Back]

Sounds good. I like the word 'is' more than 'produces'.
If you meditate you can feel the waves.

[Steve Anthony]

"As long as there's sex and drugs, I can do without the rock'n'roll!" - Quote from 'Spinal Tap' (movie).

Hello all,

[Bill Back]

re: EPR experiment paradox

1. Time from one point of view, NOW, seems not to be. All we can see is now.

2. Time from two points of view NOW and the PAST becomes a line with a direction.

3. Time viewed from PAST, NOW and FUTURE(an undeterminded point of view) can seem to be a strait line, a curve on a plane or 3D. This can explain the paradox that can happen when measuring electrons or stars.


Also it is interesting how holograms relate to WSM; the recording of standing waves on film, and viewing an object from many points of view 25,000 or more...